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Eh I think that is honestly just not true with regards to Windows, sorry. There are like 1.5 billion computers running it. Them forcing updates is simply the b

Eh I think that is honestly just not true with regards to Windows, sorry. There are like 1.5 billion computers running it. Them forcing updates is simply the best procedure because we live in a world full of complete asshats that want to create chaos and do malicious shit. The average person would never update their computers "deliberately" if that was the default. It's simply the lesser of all evils to ensure people are relatively up to date on security. I don't really like it either, but I understand it completely.

alistairSH 4y ago
There's a massive difference between a completely silent update and the more common "Update available, install now Y/N?" Apple, MS, etc should do the second. Even with a "do it now, or within 7 days, or we do it for you." Same for the router. For goods that have safety implications (cars), the updates should NEVER be silent. And probably need a long notification period with a detailed "What's New".
- TylerE 4y ago
  What if it's a fix for an actively-exploited zero day?
  - alistairSH 4y ago
    Maybe give me a day? I absolutely don't want my laptop updating/rebooting while I'm in the middle of work. I understand the need to keep up to date for security reasons, but at some point, I just need my device to work without interruption.
  - 7speter 4y ago
    Have the press make noise about it. This has happened a few times with i devices and intel cpus. I shouldn’t have to fight my computer to stop it from upgrading itself to Windows 11
domador 4y ago
Maybe there is some justification for Microsoft's design decision, but two undesirable side effects are that: 1. It angers power users who want their computer to retain their workspace's context, which is often easily lost between reboots. 2. It reduces Windows' usefulness as an OS on which to set up and run long-term processes, especially ones with real-time sensitivity, since Windows may decide to reboot itself at some unpredictable point in the process.
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  > It reduces Windows' usefulness as an OS on which to set up and run long-term processes I suspect they want to push you towards the server edition, because that's where they make their money.
barking_biscuit 4y ago
I honestly don't understand the downvotes here... Maybe it's because of the tone? But the message/content seems entirely accurate to me.

alistairSH 4y ago

There's a massive difference between a completely silent update and the more common "Update available, install now Y/N?" Apple, MS, etc should do the second. Even with a "do it now, or within 7 days, or we do it for you." Same for the router. For goods that have safety implications (cars), the updates should NEVER be silent. And probably need a long notification period with a detailed "What's New".

TylerE 4y ago
What if it's a fix for an actively-exploited zero day?
- alistairSH 4y ago
  Maybe give me a day? I absolutely don't want my laptop updating/rebooting while I'm in the middle of work. I understand the need to keep up to date for security reasons, but at some point, I just need my device to work without interruption.
- 7speter 4y ago
  Have the press make noise about it. This has happened a few times with i devices and intel cpus. I shouldn’t have to fight my computer to stop it from upgrading itself to Windows 11

domador 4y ago

Maybe there is some justification for Microsoft's design decision, but two undesirable side effects are that: 1. It angers power users who want their computer to retain their workspace's context, which is often easily lost between reboots. 2. It reduces Windows' usefulness as an OS on which to set up and run long-term processes, especially ones with real-time sensitivity, since Windows may decide to reboot itself at some unpredictable point in the process.

deafpolygon 4y ago
> It reduces Windows' usefulness as an OS on which to set up and run long-term processes I suspect they want to push you towards the server edition, because that's where they make their money.

barking_biscuit 4y ago

I honestly don't understand the downvotes here... Maybe it's because of the tone? But the message/content seems entirely accurate to me.