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stuff like this is outrageous. i got a steam deck a few weeks ago and decided to grab the base model and an $80 512GB NVMe drive on newegg. the install was easy

stuff like this is outrageous. i got a steam deck a few weeks ago and decided to grab the base model and an $80 512GB NVMe drive on newegg. the install was easy and i saved a ton of money. that's how hardware should work, especially stuff as easy as drives/RAM.

robotnikman 4y ago
I love how hackable they made the Steam Deck, you can easily find replacement parts as well. I even remember someone got an external graphics card working on one by using the NVME slot and an adapter to connect it. Of course, that kinda defeats the whole purpose of the Steam Deck lol
- TAForObvReasons 4y ago
  Repairability and general hackability are core design goals of the Steam Deck compared to other devices. On the software side, they don't hide the desktop Linux core.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    Valve is one of the few companies I don't feel is egregiously cashing in on their market monopoly store fees. The amount of value they give back is astounding. I remember buying a logitech racing wheel and finding it didn't work on linux, when I looked it up I saw a valve employee on the linux mailing list with a patch ready to merge to fix it. And then there is the incredible work done on Proton. I couldn't have imagined the future of gaming on linux was that Wine would be improved so much you couldn't tell it was being used.. At the time everyone figured you just had to complain in the game forums for a linux version and eventually it would work.
smoldesu 4y ago
It's fascinating to think that larger, more expensive machines find it acceptable to omit replaceable storage.
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fnimick 4y ago
Similarly this is the approach Sony took with the PS5. It accepts any sufficiently fast nvme drive via the standard connector - just plug it in and it works. No proprietary expansion card like Microsoft and Seagate are selling for the new Xbox.
izacus 4y ago
Steam Deck is pretty much the spiritual opposite of everything the console makers and the DRM industry stands for. I'm just waiting for big DRM publishers to start blocking it with excuse of poor DRM security and lockout.
- amalcon 4y ago
  It's sold by arguably the largest DRM provider. Valve just seems think of DRM as a way to keep honest people honest, rather than as something that aspires to be unassailable.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    It's a bit different. The Steam Deck is not locked down like consoles are. You can run anything you want on them. They then additionally allow game devs to use steam as DRM for individual games. But you are still free to run whatever software you want.
    - amalcon 4y ago
      Right, it's very different than any other console. It's not particularly out of character for Valve, though, and they are definitely part of the DRM establishment.
- hot_gril 4y ago
  Biggest thing is they're running Windows games on Linux via Wine, and idk how happy Microsoft is with that.
  - tpxl 4y ago
    > how happy Microsoft is with that Not very happy, and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
    - hot_gril 4y ago
      They own the libraries, a large part of the build toolchain these game devs are using, and in some cases the game studios themselves. It's already quite difficult for Wine to be compatible with every program, and anti-cheat can be especially problematic. I feel like they can break this if they want to.

robotnikman 4y ago

I love how hackable they made the Steam Deck, you can easily find replacement parts as well. I even remember someone got an external graphics card working on one by using the NVME slot and an adapter to connect it. Of course, that kinda defeats the whole purpose of the Steam Deck lol

TAForObvReasons 4y ago
Repairability and general hackability are core design goals of the Steam Deck compared to other devices. On the software side, they don't hide the desktop Linux core.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Valve is one of the few companies I don't feel is egregiously cashing in on their market monopoly store fees. The amount of value they give back is astounding. I remember buying a logitech racing wheel and finding it didn't work on linux, when I looked it up I saw a valve employee on the linux mailing list with a patch ready to merge to fix it. And then there is the incredible work done on Proton. I couldn't have imagined the future of gaming on linux was that Wine would be improved so much you couldn't tell it was being used.. At the time everyone figured you just had to complain in the game forums for a linux version and eventually it would work.

smoldesu 4y ago

It's fascinating to think that larger, more expensive machines find it acceptable to omit replaceable storage.

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fnimick 4y ago

Similarly this is the approach Sony took with the PS5. It accepts any sufficiently fast nvme drive via the standard connector - just plug it in and it works. No proprietary expansion card like Microsoft and Seagate are selling for the new Xbox.

izacus 4y ago

Steam Deck is pretty much the spiritual opposite of everything the console makers and the DRM industry stands for. I'm just waiting for big DRM publishers to start blocking it with excuse of poor DRM security and lockout.

amalcon 4y ago
It's sold by arguably the largest DRM provider. Valve just seems think of DRM as a way to keep honest people honest, rather than as something that aspires to be unassailable.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  It's a bit different. The Steam Deck is not locked down like consoles are. You can run anything you want on them. They then additionally allow game devs to use steam as DRM for individual games. But you are still free to run whatever software you want.
  - amalcon 4y ago
    Right, it's very different than any other console. It's not particularly out of character for Valve, though, and they are definitely part of the DRM establishment.
hot_gril 4y ago
Biggest thing is they're running Windows games on Linux via Wine, and idk how happy Microsoft is with that.
- tpxl 4y ago
  > how happy Microsoft is with that Not very happy, and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
  - hot_gril 4y ago
    They own the libraries, a large part of the build toolchain these game devs are using, and in some cases the game studios themselves. It's already quite difficult for Wine to be compatible with every program, and anti-cheat can be especially problematic. I feel like they can break this if they want to.