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I'm confused; why isn't the idea of making something more or less legal related to how many people illegally do that thing? They wouldn't be illegal immigrants

I'm confused; why isn't the idea of making something more or less legal related to how many people illegally do that thing? They wouldn't be illegal immigrants if we didn't have "tight border controls" by definition, so it feels related and not "divorced from reality"... We lived through this, basically all of American history up until 9/11, where the Mexican border was "loose"(er, the US committed some pretty fucked up atrocities using that border a few times in its history); it seems to me that if we returned to that level of interaction with Mexico, the vast majority of concerns raised by anti-immigration folks would be quelled.

jewayne 4y ago
Yep. Only in my lifetime have we attempted to limit movement across that border. But because certain media outlets use the language of war and invasion to describe the peaceful migration of people from country to country, the followers of said outlets have decided that we are, in fact, at war with these people. When in fact they're the same people who mow our lawns and wash our dishes every time we eat out. smh
- marcusverus 4y ago
  > But because certain media outlets use the language of war and invasion to describe the peaceful migration of people from country to country, the followers of said outlets have decided that we are, in fact, at war with these people. I guess pretending the issue is just some kind of Fox News conspiracy theory is easier than actually understanding it? People use the language of "invasion" for a reason. In Texas, non-hispanic whites make up ~30% of births[0], but accounted for only 5% of the population growth[1]. You'll write that off as "muh replacement conspiracy", of course--I can tell that you've been well programmed! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-2020-census/ https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-2020-census/
  - SpeedilyDamage 4y ago
    Can you elaborate on what's wrong with, "In Texas, non-hispanic whites make up ~30% of births[0], but accounted for only 5% of the population growth[1]?" I think it'd be awesome if we all had to learn Spanish in some parts of the US. What a boon for cultural diversity that would be! The exchange of ideas would be so good for our shared society.
  - jewayne 4y ago
    Wow, I did Nazi that coming.

jewayne 4y ago

Yep. Only in my lifetime have we attempted to limit movement across that border. But because certain media outlets use the language of war and invasion to describe the peaceful migration of people from country to country, the followers of said outlets have decided that we are, in fact, at war with these people. When in fact they're the same people who mow our lawns and wash our dishes every time we eat out. smh

marcusverus 4y ago
> But because certain media outlets use the language of war and invasion to describe the peaceful migration of people from country to country, the followers of said outlets have decided that we are, in fact, at war with these people. I guess pretending the issue is just some kind of Fox News conspiracy theory is easier than actually understanding it? People use the language of "invasion" for a reason. In Texas, non-hispanic whites make up ~30% of births[0], but accounted for only 5% of the population growth[1]. You'll write that off as "muh replacement conspiracy", of course--I can tell that you've been well programmed! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-2020-census/ https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-2020-census/
- SpeedilyDamage 4y ago
  Can you elaborate on what's wrong with, "In Texas, non-hispanic whites make up ~30% of births[0], but accounted for only 5% of the population growth[1]?" I think it'd be awesome if we all had to learn Spanish in some parts of the US. What a boon for cultural diversity that would be! The exchange of ideas would be so good for our shared society.
- jewayne 4y ago
  Wow, I did Nazi that coming.