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Has OWC or some other company come up with SSD upgrades for these machines yet? Would adding another chip even increase performance?

nickphx 4y ago
Afaik the storage devices are directly soldered to the 'logic' board and are unable to be replaced by the end user.
PBondurant 4y ago
The SSDs in these machines consist of NAND chips soldered directly to the motherboard; the controller aspect is handled within the main M* SOC. As such there's no way that a company could offer an internal 'upgrade' or expansion to these drives.
- operatingthetan 4y ago
  I think I was getting the config of the Mac Studio confused with the MBP.
  - metadat 4y ago
    I thought these are soldered together as well? Am I mistaken?
    - operatingthetan 4y ago
      https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac-studio/mac-studio-faq/how-to-replace-upgrade-mac-studio-internal-ssd-storage.html https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac-studio/mac-studio-faq...
- zitterbewegung 4y ago
  This is not true . The SSDs on this are not soldiered but are in distinct chips that can be removed but none of them have a discrete controller on them instead the controller is on the SoC itself. Basically they are NAND modules not full SSDs at all.
  - Scaevolus 4y ago
    The NAND chips are soldered with ball grid arrays, requiring a reflow oven to add a new chip, not to mention how the board itself would probably not even detect the extra chips. Here's an M2 Air logic board with 1 of 2 NAND chips soldered on (in yellow), there's an empty spot on the board for another chip: https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/1A2NHYEY6dJcUcd4.huge https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/1A2NHYEY6dJcUcd4.hug...
    - wil421 4y ago
      Challenge accepted. Here’s an M1 being upgraded with both RAM and Storage by some Chinese Techs. Yes, you need an oven. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/06/m1-mac-ram-and-ssd-upgrades-possible/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/06/m1-mac-ram-and-ssd-upgr...

nickphx 4y ago

Afaik the storage devices are directly soldered to the 'logic' board and are unable to be replaced by the end user.

PBondurant 4y ago

The SSDs in these machines consist of NAND chips soldered directly to the motherboard; the controller aspect is handled within the main M* SOC. As such there's no way that a company could offer an internal 'upgrade' or expansion to these drives.

operatingthetan 4y ago
I think I was getting the config of the Mac Studio confused with the MBP.
- metadat 4y ago
  I thought these are soldered together as well? Am I mistaken?
  - operatingthetan 4y ago
    https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac-studio/mac-studio-faq/how-to-replace-upgrade-mac-studio-internal-ssd-storage.html https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac-studio/mac-studio-faq...
zitterbewegung 4y ago
This is not true . The SSDs on this are not soldiered but are in distinct chips that can be removed but none of them have a discrete controller on them instead the controller is on the SoC itself. Basically they are NAND modules not full SSDs at all.
- Scaevolus 4y ago
  The NAND chips are soldered with ball grid arrays, requiring a reflow oven to add a new chip, not to mention how the board itself would probably not even detect the extra chips. Here's an M2 Air logic board with 1 of 2 NAND chips soldered on (in yellow), there's an empty spot on the board for another chip: https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/1A2NHYEY6dJcUcd4.huge https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/1A2NHYEY6dJcUcd4.hug...
  - wil421 4y ago
    Challenge accepted. Here’s an M1 being upgraded with both RAM and Storage by some Chinese Techs. Yes, you need an oven. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/06/m1-mac-ram-and-ssd-upgrades-possible/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/06/m1-mac-ram-and-ssd-upgr...