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Why work for either? I mean, money, obviously, but if you can get paid to code porn you can get paid to code for a lot of other things too. Edit: Ah, I didn't

Why work for either? I mean, money, obviously, but if you can get paid to code porn you can get paid to code for a lot of other things too. Edit: Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool. Why am I even surprised?

barbazoo 4y ago
What's wrong with pornography?
- Spivak 4y ago
  It’s crazy how weirdly we moralize porn when it’s a massive industry that basically everyone consumes in one form or another.
- tarotuser 4y ago
  Most people will respond with "immorality" or likewise. What it amounts to is badly interpreted bible verses by the 3 Abrahamic religions as a means of social control over the taboo of sex. As someone who follows the old religions, I see this everywhere. The men are expected to be open to sex, but women who do are seen as whores. But, that's where the taboo of sexwork comes from. And to link it back to the article, Calvinism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism ) is the primary and dominant reason why prisons are as brutish as they are. The basic gist of this form of Protestant Christianity is that 'you are predestined to be a horrible person and predestined to be in prison, so we have the right to treat you inhumanely as possible because you deserve it'. Capitalist monopoly forces also have a bearing here in the price gouging, but the basic infrastructure of a prison is brutish because "you deserve it", in a Calvinist sense.
dang 4y ago
> Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool. "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- adenozine 4y ago
  Yeah? Want to know a reliable marker for a history of abuse, fraud, violence, and criminal tendencies? Pornography. Like many here, I have several adult daughters, and I’ve given a lot of thought to what role pornography has in our society. You can sit there and act like my position is unreasonable, but while you do so, women are being trafficked for porn, suffering violence for porn, being drugged for porn, being coerced by their boyfriends and spouses for porn, and more. Frankly, you can all spare me the bullshit, as if there could be one iota of legitimacy to the entire adult entertainment industry. Absolutely sickening.
  - dang 4y ago
    Would you please stop posting like this? It's very obviously not what HN is for, if you'll read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You may be completely right but this is not the way to go about showing it to everyone. We don't want garden-variety internet flamewar here—it's exactly the opposite of curious conversation.
    - adenozine 4y ago
      Dang, garden variety is normalization of extremely victimizing behaviors surrounding an industry? My posts haven’t been rude or unclear. I never made a sharp or crass remark directed at anybody in particular. You’re characterizing my dismissal of defensive statements about pornography as inciting a flamewar? I’ve read the guidelines. I need for you to explain to me in clear and unambiguous terms exactly what I’ve said that is not acceptable for HN and why it cannot be allowed whilst speech supporting an industry that systematically abducts, trafficks, abuses and exploits women is acceptable and not say, garden-variety misogyny. Curious conversation? This place has a point system, fake names, and a voting mechanic, so, give us all a break with the platitudes. I’m looking forward to your explanation.
      - dang 4y ago
        Your comments in this thread include fulmination/name-calling ("Absolutely sickening") and flamebait ("Frankly, you can all spare me the bullshit") in the sense that the HN guidelines use those terms. Also snark/sneering ("Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool.") We ban accounts that post like that, regardless of how right they are or feel they are, so please don't keep posting like that.

barbazoo 4y ago

What's wrong with pornography?

Spivak 4y ago
It’s crazy how weirdly we moralize porn when it’s a massive industry that basically everyone consumes in one form or another.
tarotuser 4y ago
Most people will respond with "immorality" or likewise. What it amounts to is badly interpreted bible verses by the 3 Abrahamic religions as a means of social control over the taboo of sex. As someone who follows the old religions, I see this everywhere. The men are expected to be open to sex, but women who do are seen as whores. But, that's where the taboo of sexwork comes from. And to link it back to the article, Calvinism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism ) is the primary and dominant reason why prisons are as brutish as they are. The basic gist of this form of Protestant Christianity is that 'you are predestined to be a horrible person and predestined to be in prison, so we have the right to treat you inhumanely as possible because you deserve it'. Capitalist monopoly forces also have a bearing here in the price gouging, but the basic infrastructure of a prison is brutish because "you deserve it", in a Calvinist sense.

dang 4y ago

> Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool. "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

adenozine 4y ago
Yeah? Want to know a reliable marker for a history of abuse, fraud, violence, and criminal tendencies? Pornography. Like many here, I have several adult daughters, and I’ve given a lot of thought to what role pornography has in our society. You can sit there and act like my position is unreasonable, but while you do so, women are being trafficked for porn, suffering violence for porn, being drugged for porn, being coerced by their boyfriends and spouses for porn, and more. Frankly, you can all spare me the bullshit, as if there could be one iota of legitimacy to the entire adult entertainment industry. Absolutely sickening.
- dang 4y ago
  Would you please stop posting like this? It's very obviously not what HN is for, if you'll read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You may be completely right but this is not the way to go about showing it to everyone. We don't want garden-variety internet flamewar here—it's exactly the opposite of curious conversation.
  - adenozine 4y ago
    Dang, garden variety is normalization of extremely victimizing behaviors surrounding an industry? My posts haven’t been rude or unclear. I never made a sharp or crass remark directed at anybody in particular. You’re characterizing my dismissal of defensive statements about pornography as inciting a flamewar? I’ve read the guidelines. I need for you to explain to me in clear and unambiguous terms exactly what I’ve said that is not acceptable for HN and why it cannot be allowed whilst speech supporting an industry that systematically abducts, trafficks, abuses and exploits women is acceptable and not say, garden-variety misogyny. Curious conversation? This place has a point system, fake names, and a voting mechanic, so, give us all a break with the platitudes. I’m looking forward to your explanation.
    - dang 4y ago
      Your comments in this thread include fulmination/name-calling ("Absolutely sickening") and flamebait ("Frankly, you can all spare me the bullshit") in the sense that the HN guidelines use those terms. Also snark/sneering ("Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool.") We ban accounts that post like that, regardless of how right they are or feel they are, so please don't keep posting like that.