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Step 2: > If you're using macOS Monterey or later on a Mac with Apple silicon or a Mac with the Apple T2 Security Chip, use Erase All Content and Settings inst

Step 2: > If you're using macOS Monterey or later on a Mac with Apple silicon or a Mac with the Apple T2 Security Chip, use Erase All Content and Settings instead of the remaining steps in this article. So, it is literally a two step process for any Mac released since the end of 2017, and the first step is just an optional reminder to cancel or transfer your AppleCare coverage if you have any. So, one real step. Wow, so hard. > assuming that the seller is even aware The buyer should make the seller aware of the problem, because it is in the buyer's interest not to end up with scrap. But, regardless, why would the seller not want to wipe their computer first? The seller will inevitably hit the button mentioned in the help article simply because that's the only obvious way to wipe the computer to anyone who isn't super technical. This is a problem that practically solves itself for devices that aren't stolen.

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willnonya 4y ago
This again assumes the owner isn't ignorant of the requirement or apathetic to it. Corpo6entities tend to be apathetic while most private owners are simply stupid.
- coder543 4y ago
  >> The buyer should make the seller aware of the problem, because it is in the buyer's interest not to end up with scrap. How does this assume anything about the owner/seller? It’s entirely on the buyer to make sure they’re getting what they want out of a transaction (as long as the seller is not misrepresenting the product), and activation lock has been a thing for like a decade on Apple devices, so it should be widely known. If they make major purchases without even doing the bare minimum of due diligence, they will have a bad time regardless of activation lock. I’ve seen people buy ancient MacBooks off eBay that can’t run the software they need, simply because they didn’t do the research. That isn’t the seller’s fault. If the seller is misrepresenting the product as having the activation lock removed when it isn’t, that becomes a legal issue. On platforms like eBay, they will happily side with the buyer and refund them in cases like that. For B2B stuff, that’s why lawyers exist.
goosedragons 4y ago
Click step two and guess how many steps it is.

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willnonya 4y ago

This again assumes the owner isn't ignorant of the requirement or apathetic to it. Corpo6entities tend to be apathetic while most private owners are simply stupid.

coder543 4y ago
>> The buyer should make the seller aware of the problem, because it is in the buyer's interest not to end up with scrap. How does this assume anything about the owner/seller? It’s entirely on the buyer to make sure they’re getting what they want out of a transaction (as long as the seller is not misrepresenting the product), and activation lock has been a thing for like a decade on Apple devices, so it should be widely known. If they make major purchases without even doing the bare minimum of due diligence, they will have a bad time regardless of activation lock. I’ve seen people buy ancient MacBooks off eBay that can’t run the software they need, simply because they didn’t do the research. That isn’t the seller’s fault. If the seller is misrepresenting the product as having the activation lock removed when it isn’t, that becomes a legal issue. On platforms like eBay, they will happily side with the buyer and refund them in cases like that. For B2B stuff, that’s why lawyers exist.

goosedragons 4y ago

Click step two and guess how many steps it is.