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If that's the case then I guess it wouldn't be too much work for Apple to provide a way to contact the original owner and ask them if they would mind it being w

by Lio 4y ago

If that's the case then I guess it wouldn't be too much work for Apple to provide a way to contact the original owner and ask them if they would mind it being wiped and reactivated for recycling. I'm sure some percentage of owners would allow that if it was just a click of a button and would help cut down on e-waste. As long as the machine isn't stolen and you know you're not going to expose any data then why not? (...and if it is stolen then the owner can expect the recycler to explain where they got it from and return it.)

whstl 4y ago
"I guess it wouldn't be too much work for Apple to provide a way to contact the original owner" I actually prefer if Apple doesn't provide anyone with a way to contact me, ESPECIALLY if they have something potentially stolen from me.
- Lio 4y ago
  I wondered how to phrase this and I think I’ve done a bad job based on the downvotes. I don’t mean that Apple allow a third party to contact anyone directly, I agree that that would be terrible. Instead I could see Apple themselves contacting the last known owner to ask permission to wipe and open the laptop for reuse. If that’s not what you want then you tell Apple the once and that’s the end of it. Reuse won’t always be what people want but if a laptop can be repaired and securely reused then that’s much, much more energy efficient than recycling it.
  - gls2ro 4y ago
    allowing this would open the possibility of thefts forcing the victims to respond in a specific way thus opening a possibility of violence along with theft. so no to that. the solution to work as deterrent should be final: stolen device = brick device, no other possibility. in the case of solving theft of devices we have to choose the price we want to pay. all solutions are based on various ways to deter the theft. there is no solution to stop the action of theft once started. thus all solutions have a price that could range from false positives (like legit owners being locked out) to waste like theft happens because they dont know that they cannot unlock it without destroying the device.

by Lio 4y ago

whstl 4y ago

"I guess it wouldn't be too much work for Apple to provide a way to contact the original owner" I actually prefer if Apple doesn't provide anyone with a way to contact me, ESPECIALLY if they have something potentially stolen from me.

Lio 4y ago
I wondered how to phrase this and I think I’ve done a bad job based on the downvotes. I don’t mean that Apple allow a third party to contact anyone directly, I agree that that would be terrible. Instead I could see Apple themselves contacting the last known owner to ask permission to wipe and open the laptop for reuse. If that’s not what you want then you tell Apple the once and that’s the end of it. Reuse won’t always be what people want but if a laptop can be repaired and securely reused then that’s much, much more energy efficient than recycling it.
- gls2ro 4y ago
  allowing this would open the possibility of thefts forcing the victims to respond in a specific way thus opening a possibility of violence along with theft. so no to that. the solution to work as deterrent should be final: stolen device = brick device, no other possibility. in the case of solving theft of devices we have to choose the price we want to pay. all solutions are based on various ways to deter the theft. there is no solution to stop the action of theft once started. thus all solutions have a price that could range from false positives (like legit owners being locked out) to waste like theft happens because they dont know that they cannot unlock it without destroying the device.