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> Responsible recyclers and refurbishers wipe the data from used devices before selling them on. In these cases, the data is wiped, but cannot be assigned to a

> Responsible recyclers and refurbishers wipe the data from used devices before selling them on. In these cases, the data is wiped, but cannot be assigned to a new user, making them effectively worthless. Wait. There is no way to assign a new owner to these machines? If I had an old M1 Macbook that I wanted to give to a relative I wouldn't be able to?

ericpauley 4y ago
Incorrect. The problem is that the devices are still locked to an iCloud account. Before selling it or giving it away you just need to log out.
kitsunesoba 4y ago
No, if you properly reset the machine (which logs you out of iCloud, turns off find my Mac, etc), there’s no problem in giving the used machine to someone else. It only fails if you don’t log the machine out. This is to deter theft, since a reset requires the user’s password. If it’s not been reset it’s a brick.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  Does it require an internet connection and Apple servers to do that?
  - kitsunesoba 4y ago
    Yes, but if you’re the original owner that shouldn’t be an issue. The other thing to note is that if the computer hasn’t been signed into iCloud or had Find My Mac turned on, none of this necessary. So someone who’s paranoid about phoning home can probably resell after a simple reformat.
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gjsman-1000 4y ago
No, there absolutely is. If you wanted to transfer ownership: 1. Ideally, you'd reset your Mac through System Settings. 2. If you forgot to do that or didn't realize, you'd sign in to your iCloud account and remove the device, unlocking it for a new owner. This is about situations where neither apply... which >90% of the time, is going to be theft.
foldr 4y ago
You can do that, you just have to reset the device first.
iamwpj 4y ago
You just need to remove it from your devices via Find My. Any reseller (even Apple!) requires this before payment for the device.
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ericpauley 4y ago

Incorrect. The problem is that the devices are still locked to an iCloud account. Before selling it or giving it away you just need to log out.

kitsunesoba 4y ago

No, if you properly reset the machine (which logs you out of iCloud, turns off find my Mac, etc), there’s no problem in giving the used machine to someone else. It only fails if you don’t log the machine out. This is to deter theft, since a reset requires the user’s password. If it’s not been reset it’s a brick.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
Does it require an internet connection and Apple servers to do that?
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Yes, but if you’re the original owner that shouldn’t be an issue. The other thing to note is that if the computer hasn’t been signed into iCloud or had Find My Mac turned on, none of this necessary. So someone who’s paranoid about phoning home can probably resell after a simple reformat.
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gjsman-1000 4y ago

No, there absolutely is. If you wanted to transfer ownership: 1. Ideally, you'd reset your Mac through System Settings. 2. If you forgot to do that or didn't realize, you'd sign in to your iCloud account and remove the device, unlocking it for a new owner. This is about situations where neither apply... which >90% of the time, is going to be theft.

foldr 4y ago

You can do that, you just have to reset the device first.

iamwpj 4y ago

You just need to remove it from your devices via Find My. Any reseller (even Apple!) requires this before payment for the device.

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