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Yeah, there’s no way to account for everyone. It’s probably not fair to assume there’s a huge amount of untracked users. And Mozilla cops to the continuing decl

Yeah, there’s no way to account for everyone. It’s probably not fair to assume there’s a huge amount of untracked users. And Mozilla cops to the continuing decline as well: > “Looking back five years and looking at our market share and our own numbers that we publish, there's no denying the decline,” says Selena Deckelmann, senior vice president of Firefox https://www.wired.com/story/firefox-mozilla-2022/ https://www.wired.com/story/firefox-mozilla-2022/

onli 4y ago
If statcounter is in the list of blocked trackers, and trackers are blocked by default, then assuming there is a huge list of untracked users is only fair. Because it would be everyone not specifically disabling the tracking protection, which no one does. Statcounter would only count outdated FF installations that also do not use an adblocker (3% seems high for that, but not absurdly high). But I'm not certain that this is the case. https://disconnect.me/trackerprotection https://disconnect.me/trackerprotection claims to link to lists that show which trackers are only identified and which are identified and blocked, but those links just go to https://github.com/disconnectme/disconnect-tracking-protection https://github.com/disconnectme/disconnect-tracking-protecti..., where I do not see such a distinction being made.
- blendergeek 4y ago
  > If statcounter is in the list of blocked trackers, and trackers are blocked by default, then assuming there is a huge list of untracked users is only fair. Did we see a massive drop in Firefox users when tracking protection was introduced?
- jefftk 4y ago
  Trackers are not blocked by default. You can verify this by visiting https://www.jefftk.com/test/statcounter https://www.jefftk.com/test/statcounter in stock Firefox, and then again after setting "Enhanced Tracking Protection" to "Strict".

onli 4y ago

If statcounter is in the list of blocked trackers, and trackers are blocked by default, then assuming there is a huge list of untracked users is only fair. Because it would be everyone not specifically disabling the tracking protection, which no one does. Statcounter would only count outdated FF installations that also do not use an adblocker (3% seems high for that, but not absurdly high). But I'm not certain that this is the case. https://disconnect.me/trackerprotection https://disconnect.me/trackerprotection claims to link to lists that show which trackers are only identified and which are identified and blocked, but those links just go to https://github.com/disconnectme/disconnect-tracking-protection https://github.com/disconnectme/disconnect-tracking-protecti..., where I do not see such a distinction being made.

blendergeek 4y ago
> If statcounter is in the list of blocked trackers, and trackers are blocked by default, then assuming there is a huge list of untracked users is only fair. Did we see a massive drop in Firefox users when tracking protection was introduced?
jefftk 4y ago
Trackers are not blocked by default. You can verify this by visiting https://www.jefftk.com/test/statcounter https://www.jefftk.com/test/statcounter in stock Firefox, and then again after setting "Enhanced Tracking Protection" to "Strict".