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That's a teenager's point of view, you can't live in a dense community and say "I can do what I want because I'm free", every single of your action have consequ

That's a teenager's point of view, you can't live in a dense community and say "I can do what I want because I'm free", every single of your action have consequences, on you, and on the community. Of course other people can force you to live a certain way, that's like the whole basis of living in societies, we come up with rules and follow them, these rules change all the time

revolvingocelot 4y ago
>That's a teenager's point of view But haven't you read these well-upvoted opinions? It's the right of the adult to do whatever they want; the student-lifestyle of public transit is the position of the grubby, naive, cooperative youngster. Once you have the resources, you seal yourself away in your bubble -- preferentially ICE-based, of course -- and Become Traffic. It's the culturally superior option, as everybody's known since the 50s, and we here on HN are superior. Our paychecks tell us so. The public transit option, ill-funded as it is, will never be popular, because as sarcastic as I might seem here, I'm also simply describing reality.
throwaway4aday 4y ago
> you can't live in a dense community Not everyone does, 99% of the world exists outside of cities. You can't apply urban reasoning to the majority of the world. Sure, all actions have consequences but that doesn't mean you need a policeman to supervise every step you take. The only reason societies function is because individuals decide for themselves that they will abide by societal norms. The laws enacted by societies are a tiny fraction of the rules we use to govern our behaviour and none of it would be any use if people simply decided to ignore those rules, hence why crime still exists, sometimes people just DGAF and do what they want for their own reasons. It's pretty funny being accused of having an immature viewpoint when you are literally appealing to authority to solve all of your problems. Adults need to solve their own.

revolvingocelot 4y ago

>That's a teenager's point of view But haven't you read these well-upvoted opinions? It's the right of the adult to do whatever they want; the student-lifestyle of public transit is the position of the grubby, naive, cooperative youngster. Once you have the resources, you seal yourself away in your bubble -- preferentially ICE-based, of course -- and Become Traffic. It's the culturally superior option, as everybody's known since the 50s, and we here on HN are superior. Our paychecks tell us so. The public transit option, ill-funded as it is, will never be popular, because as sarcastic as I might seem here, I'm also simply describing reality.

throwaway4aday 4y ago

> you can't live in a dense community Not everyone does, 99% of the world exists outside of cities. You can't apply urban reasoning to the majority of the world. Sure, all actions have consequences but that doesn't mean you need a policeman to supervise every step you take. The only reason societies function is because individuals decide for themselves that they will abide by societal norms. The laws enacted by societies are a tiny fraction of the rules we use to govern our behaviour and none of it would be any use if people simply decided to ignore those rules, hence why crime still exists, sometimes people just DGAF and do what they want for their own reasons. It's pretty funny being accused of having an immature viewpoint when you are literally appealing to authority to solve all of your problems. Adults need to solve their own.