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"AI-free" is pretty clear. "Organic" is much more subjective. The same applies to Organic food, if I'm not mistaken.

by Veuxdo 4y ago

artpi 4y ago
I couldn't resist the metaphor of the "Organic" origin, as produced by wet brain instead of silicon.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Silicon!
  - artpi 4y ago
    Thank you, edited - my toddler did not sleep that well tonight :D
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      Yes, that can eat up your energy like nothing else. Best of luck with that, been there, have a whole bunch of t-shirts ;)
throwawayhnfpg 4y ago
Calling others' work product "content" is pretty offensive.
- daveguy 4y ago
  I disagree. We have called online distribution "content distribution" and the people who contribute stories, videos, and art "content creators" for at least a decade. It's a catch-all generic term for all content that another person would consume via a platform. In a general work setting you're probably not producing content for a platform, but you are certainly producing content for your coworkers and customers. It's so you don't have to say: "stories, blogs, vlogs, photos, digital art, products and any other thing that is consumed by others."
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    Agreed. If anything, word 'content' captured a broader array of work output in the mind of general public than work, which conjures up a lot of things, but rarely artistic endeavors. I do dislike using it as a part of describing my own habits, but it would appear that ship has sailed. In both my tech and non-tech circle, stuff they do is content consumption. I am not sure when it became so prevalent.
remedan 4y ago
Is "AI-free" clear? If I google something during the making of my project, is the project AI free? What if I type on a phone keyboard with autosuggestions? There is machine learning involved in all kinds of stuff and AI is a pretty general term.
- quchen 4y ago
  Edwin Brady often talks about his (digital) lab assistant. I think that’s a good mental image: an AI assistant is what we’ve used so far and I think is fine. They help us bounce ideas back and forth (e.g. searching) and correct typical mistakes (typos, type errors in Edwin’s case). But as soon as they’re running the lab and we become the assistant, I think that’s where most people would draw the line.
alpos 4y ago
Actually it's the other way around. Those pushing the concept of "AI-Free" have yet to nail down what amounts and types of automation may be used in the production of a thing before it can no longer be labeled "AI-Free". On the other hand, "Organic" is very well defined at this point. In the US there is a whole legal framework around labeling foods, drugs, and cosmetics. https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/organic-food-labels https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/organic-foo... https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national... There is even a training and accreditation system in place for qualifying people as certifiers of organic practices as well as an application and review process for farms and manufacturers to be certified to use the label. https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/becoming-certified https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/beco...

"AI-free" is pretty clear. "Organic" is much more subjective. The same applies to Organic food, if I'm not mistaken.

by Veuxdo 4y ago

"AI-free" is pretty clear. "Organic" is much more subjective. The same applies to Organic food, if I'm not mistaken.

artpi 4y ago

I couldn't resist the metaphor of the "Organic" origin, as produced by wet brain instead of silicon.

jacquesm 4y ago
Silicon!
- artpi 4y ago
  Thank you, edited - my toddler did not sleep that well tonight :D
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Yes, that can eat up your energy like nothing else. Best of luck with that, been there, have a whole bunch of t-shirts ;)

throwawayhnfpg 4y ago

Calling others' work product "content" is pretty offensive.

daveguy 4y ago
I disagree. We have called online distribution "content distribution" and the people who contribute stories, videos, and art "content creators" for at least a decade. It's a catch-all generic term for all content that another person would consume via a platform. In a general work setting you're probably not producing content for a platform, but you are certainly producing content for your coworkers and customers. It's so you don't have to say: "stories, blogs, vlogs, photos, digital art, products and any other thing that is consumed by others."
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Agreed. If anything, word 'content' captured a broader array of work output in the mind of general public than work, which conjures up a lot of things, but rarely artistic endeavors. I do dislike using it as a part of describing my own habits, but it would appear that ship has sailed. In both my tech and non-tech circle, stuff they do is content consumption. I am not sure when it became so prevalent.

remedan 4y ago

Is "AI-free" clear? If I google something during the making of my project, is the project AI free? What if I type on a phone keyboard with autosuggestions? There is machine learning involved in all kinds of stuff and AI is a pretty general term.

quchen 4y ago
Edwin Brady often talks about his (digital) lab assistant. I think that’s a good mental image: an AI assistant is what we’ve used so far and I think is fine. They help us bounce ideas back and forth (e.g. searching) and correct typical mistakes (typos, type errors in Edwin’s case). But as soon as they’re running the lab and we become the assistant, I think that’s where most people would draw the line.

alpos 4y ago

Actually it's the other way around. Those pushing the concept of "AI-Free" have yet to nail down what amounts and types of automation may be used in the production of a thing before it can no longer be labeled "AI-Free". On the other hand, "Organic" is very well defined at this point. In the US there is a whole legal framework around labeling foods, drugs, and cosmetics. https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/organic-food-labels https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/organic-foo... https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national... There is even a training and accreditation system in place for qualifying people as certifiers of organic practices as well as an application and review process for farms and manufacturers to be certified to use the label. https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/becoming-certified https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/beco...