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You would not get in "trouble" - I was a waiter at a restaurant in New York where the waiters make $0 per hour, only tips, and often we had customers from Franc

You would not get in "trouble" - I was a waiter at a restaurant in New York where the waiters make $0 per hour, only tips, and often we had customers from France or Germany who would sit and drink coffee for 3 or 4 hours, pay for the coffee and leave no tip. We waiters were upset about it because they did not understand that we are only paid by the customers, not the restaurant. But no one ever got in trouble. When I lived in France and spent time in Germany, I always tipped a lot just to make a statement... but I understand that the waiters there are actually paid by the restaurants, so it's not necessary.

shever73 4y ago
I think that very much depends on the establshment. I'm from the EU and the server chased me down in the car park in upstate NY because I didn't tip.
- FrontierPsych 4y ago
  First, I don't believe you one tiny little bit. Second, even if it DID happen, that is the fantastically rare situation, that is extremely bizzare. You can read here and everywhere that this is not how it is done, so you don't make a judgement based on one single time, especially when no one else ever has had that experience. I've left restaurants many times without paying a tip because of exceptionally poor service, it's never happened to me. I've never heard it happening to anyone. Yeah, totally 100% do not believe you. Sorry, man. I just don't. Again, unless that server was actually and really truly mentally ill, and not using the term colloquially.
otikik 4y ago
> I was a waiter at a restaurant in New York where the waiters make $0 per hour, only tips Not a legal expert, but that looks very much illegal.
- noduerme 4y ago
  That's how it is. At the end of the year, they ask you how much you made in tips, calculate the tax off that and then "pay" you the exact amount of your taxes by giving it to the government. It's the same as strippers. Better, because strippers often have to pay to dance.
freedomben 4y ago
I don't think they meant "trouble" as in "they'll be in trouble with the restaurant for not tipping." I read it as "I'll be in (financial) trouble because I'll run out of money sooner than I expected" which would be a concern of mine as well in their shoes.

shever73 4y ago

I think that very much depends on the establshment. I'm from the EU and the server chased me down in the car park in upstate NY because I didn't tip.

FrontierPsych 4y ago
First, I don't believe you one tiny little bit. Second, even if it DID happen, that is the fantastically rare situation, that is extremely bizzare. You can read here and everywhere that this is not how it is done, so you don't make a judgement based on one single time, especially when no one else ever has had that experience. I've left restaurants many times without paying a tip because of exceptionally poor service, it's never happened to me. I've never heard it happening to anyone. Yeah, totally 100% do not believe you. Sorry, man. I just don't. Again, unless that server was actually and really truly mentally ill, and not using the term colloquially.

otikik 4y ago

> I was a waiter at a restaurant in New York where the waiters make $0 per hour, only tips Not a legal expert, but that looks very much illegal.

noduerme 4y ago
That's how it is. At the end of the year, they ask you how much you made in tips, calculate the tax off that and then "pay" you the exact amount of your taxes by giving it to the government. It's the same as strippers. Better, because strippers often have to pay to dance.

freedomben 4y ago

I don't think they meant "trouble" as in "they'll be in trouble with the restaurant for not tipping." I read it as "I'll be in (financial) trouble because I'll run out of money sooner than I expected" which would be a concern of mine as well in their shoes.