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Dunno, seems tricky. If we equate keyboard warriors with the people who actually commit atrocities, we're in a sense lowering the severity of those atrocities

Dunno, seems tricky. If we equate keyboard warriors with the people who actually commit atrocities, we're in a sense lowering the severity of those atrocities to be equal to being a sad edge lord.

CommitSyn 4y ago
Spreading ideas on the internet is spreading ideas to other meat sponges. I wouldn't consider most of the mass shooters of the past decade to be anything more than sad edge lords, but they've ended a ton of lives and ruined far more. Most skinheads are in loosely organized groups, not American History X or Sons of Anarchy with massive financial backing and tight-knit organization.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  People have ideas, ideas don't have people. If it was true that merely being exposed to an idea had the ability to take over and control a person like a mindless puppet, then democracy would simply not work, instead the only viable option would be strict control over thoughts and communication prevent harmful ideas from taking over peoples minds.
  - wittycardio 4y ago
    People are very susceptible to ideas. That's the premise of political propaganda and the entire advertising industry. It's not clear what the solution is but most people are consumers of ideas, not producers.
poulpy123 4y ago
read about "radio milles collines" for something relatively recent
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  Rabble rousing is a different thing. There's numerous examples of people being stirred into violent mobs over such things as the wrong person being considered for papacy. e.g. http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1378.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1378.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1484.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1484.html
pydry 4y ago
The ones who actually commit atrocities always start out as edgelords.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  I'm not sure how I would even begin to verify that, but even taking it as true, it's necessary but not sufficient, but so is being a human being.
- cudgy 4y ago
  Edgelords always start out as babies, so … babies commit atrocities. Where does that get us?

Dunno, seems tricky. If we equate keyboard warriors with the people who actually commit atrocities, we're in a sense lowering the severity of those atrocities to be equal to being a sad edge lord.

CommitSyn 4y ago

Spreading ideas on the internet is spreading ideas to other meat sponges. I wouldn't consider most of the mass shooters of the past decade to be anything more than sad edge lords, but they've ended a ton of lives and ruined far more. Most skinheads are in loosely organized groups, not American History X or Sons of Anarchy with massive financial backing and tight-knit organization.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
People have ideas, ideas don't have people. If it was true that merely being exposed to an idea had the ability to take over and control a person like a mindless puppet, then democracy would simply not work, instead the only viable option would be strict control over thoughts and communication prevent harmful ideas from taking over peoples minds.
- wittycardio 4y ago
  People are very susceptible to ideas. That's the premise of political propaganda and the entire advertising industry. It's not clear what the solution is but most people are consumers of ideas, not producers.

poulpy123 4y ago

read about "radio milles collines" for something relatively recent

marginalia_nu 4y ago
Rabble rousing is a different thing. There's numerous examples of people being stirred into violent mobs over such things as the wrong person being considered for papacy. e.g. http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1378.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1378.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1484.html http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1484.html

pydry 4y ago

The ones who actually commit atrocities always start out as edgelords.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
I'm not sure how I would even begin to verify that, but even taking it as true, it's necessary but not sufficient, but so is being a human being.
cudgy 4y ago
Edgelords always start out as babies, so … babies commit atrocities. Where does that get us?