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Google does this same shit. They even have a graphical tool for it; not kidding. Google, widely mocked for the douchiness of its hiring process (which it admit

Google does this same shit. They even have a graphical tool for it; not kidding. Google, widely mocked for the douchiness of its hiring process (which it admitted to years ago and claimed that it was trying to reduce), forces employees to rank their fellows using a graphical tool that presents their pictures on screen and demands that you move them up or down to rank them in reference to each other. The application makes it impossible to align colleagues on the same horizontal line. I mean... who the fuck expends the engineering time to create such an offensive tool? Google; that's who.

sakex 4y ago
I work there, it's definitely not true
- oblio 4y ago
  Are you a manager?
- BuckyBeaver 4y ago
  Really? You know company-wide practices at all offices, for the last decade or so? I have this first-hand from a colleague who worked there, and he is definitely not one to make things up. Plus... this would be an oddly specific lie, don't you think? To be fair, I should have used past tense in my comment, since this was a few years ago. But, given interview experiences at Google reported by other immediate colleagues, I would find the story believable even without knowing the credibility of the source. Here's another one: My friend (not the one who saw the "ranking" system) had an interview at Google, where he was given a programming exercise and told he could solve the problem in any language he wanted. The interviewer left the room, and my friend correctly solved the problem in Objective-C. The interviewer came back, looked at it, and said, "Oh, not THAT language." A few years later, Google publicly admitted that its interview process sucked and said it was making it better. I have declined to interview with them, however, not only because of friends' experiences but also the company's behavior on the whole.
deelly 4y ago
First time hearing about it. Some src to claims maybe?
glenstein 4y ago
Where'd you hear about this?
- BuckyBeaver 4y ago
  Directly from a longtime colleague who worked there. Not someone who makes stuff up; a multi-decade veteran of major software firms.
postexitus 4y ago
can confirm. it's even worse, the first version was literally called "Stack Ranker" then was muddled up into the management dashboard with some obscure "Promotion signal" link.
cmrdporcupine 4y ago
Google used to have a peer stack ranking tool about 10 years ago. It was there for a bit when I started and then unceremoniously removed. So your information is false. Google does/did have an elaborate "calibration" process which seems to eat all of management's time. But that's more of a committee, manual, meeting process and isn't really stack ranking. Anyways, it's all bullshit, just like school grades and IQ tests and leetcode interviews: ranking and measuring humans is inhumane. I know why it happens, but I also instinctively run away from any organizationally large enough to "need" it.

sakex 4y ago

I work there, it's definitely not true

oblio 4y ago
Are you a manager?
BuckyBeaver 4y ago
Really? You know company-wide practices at all offices, for the last decade or so? I have this first-hand from a colleague who worked there, and he is definitely not one to make things up. Plus... this would be an oddly specific lie, don't you think? To be fair, I should have used past tense in my comment, since this was a few years ago. But, given interview experiences at Google reported by other immediate colleagues, I would find the story believable even without knowing the credibility of the source. Here's another one: My friend (not the one who saw the "ranking" system) had an interview at Google, where he was given a programming exercise and told he could solve the problem in any language he wanted. The interviewer left the room, and my friend correctly solved the problem in Objective-C. The interviewer came back, looked at it, and said, "Oh, not THAT language." A few years later, Google publicly admitted that its interview process sucked and said it was making it better. I have declined to interview with them, however, not only because of friends' experiences but also the company's behavior on the whole.

deelly 4y ago

First time hearing about it. Some src to claims maybe?

glenstein 4y ago

Where'd you hear about this?

BuckyBeaver 4y ago
Directly from a longtime colleague who worked there. Not someone who makes stuff up; a multi-decade veteran of major software firms.

postexitus 4y ago

can confirm. it's even worse, the first version was literally called "Stack Ranker" then was muddled up into the management dashboard with some obscure "Promotion signal" link.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

Google used to have a peer stack ranking tool about 10 years ago. It was there for a bit when I started and then unceremoniously removed. So your information is false. Google does/did have an elaborate "calibration" process which seems to eat all of management's time. But that's more of a committee, manual, meeting process and isn't really stack ranking. Anyways, it's all bullshit, just like school grades and IQ tests and leetcode interviews: ranking and measuring humans is inhumane. I know why it happens, but I also instinctively run away from any organizationally large enough to "need" it.