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Isn't elastic NOT truly opensource since 7.10? You are using 8.4.3 and you are building on top of it. have you checked the terms & conditions? OpenSearch is a

by Obertr 4y ago

Isn't elastic NOT truly opensource since 7.10? You are using 8.4.3 and you are building on top of it. have you checked the terms & conditions? OpenSearch is an open source alternative https://opensearch.org/ https://opensearch.org/ https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing

nullify88 4y ago
I may have missed something, what have they done that builds on top of 8.4.3? SigNoz uses Clickhouse as its storage backend.
pranay01 4y ago
>You are using 8.4.3 and you are building on top of it. have you checked the terms & conditions? We have just used Elastic 8.4.3 for the benchmark. We are not building on top of it. So, I am not sure how do the T&Cs apply. Can you share more?
- ensignavenger 4y ago
  The Hacker News title says "open source" in it... but Elastic isn't open source, so it shouldn't qualify... though the article doesn't say open source... so maybe the Hacker News title was editorialized and is incorrect?
  - dijit 4y ago
    Free software is loaded with terms. Open Source means concretely: that you can read the source. Free and Open source usually means you are free to use it in many ways, sometimes with restrictions or agreements that contributions must be made available. This freedom is the point of contention with ElasticSearch and MongoDB. Sorry to he pedantic, but terminology is important.
    - nextaccountic 4y ago
      Yeah, no. This is HN and free software & open source are established terms of art in programming, and Elastic is neither free software nor open source software Fortunately Elastic already has an appropriate term for it: source-available software [0], and that's the term Elastic itself uses to define its license in their FAQ [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software [1] https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing#what-is-sspl-and-how-does-it-work https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing#what-is-sspl-an...

by Obertr 4y ago

nullify88 4y ago

I may have missed something, what have they done that builds on top of 8.4.3? SigNoz uses Clickhouse as its storage backend.

pranay01 4y ago

>You are using 8.4.3 and you are building on top of it. have you checked the terms & conditions? We have just used Elastic 8.4.3 for the benchmark. We are not building on top of it. So, I am not sure how do the T&Cs apply. Can you share more?

ensignavenger 4y ago
The Hacker News title says "open source" in it... but Elastic isn't open source, so it shouldn't qualify... though the article doesn't say open source... so maybe the Hacker News title was editorialized and is incorrect?
- dijit 4y ago
  Free software is loaded with terms. Open Source means concretely: that you can read the source. Free and Open source usually means you are free to use it in many ways, sometimes with restrictions or agreements that contributions must be made available. This freedom is the point of contention with ElasticSearch and MongoDB. Sorry to he pedantic, but terminology is important.
  - nextaccountic 4y ago
    Yeah, no. This is HN and free software & open source are established terms of art in programming, and Elastic is neither free software nor open source software Fortunately Elastic already has an appropriate term for it: source-available software [0], and that's the term Elastic itself uses to define its license in their FAQ [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software [1] https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing#what-is-sspl-and-how-does-it-work https://www.elastic.co/pricing/faq/licensing#what-is-sspl-an...