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I can see the point of leaving a tip when a server has done a really good job (of course they should be paid a decent wage too). For me the annoying bit is bein

I can see the point of leaving a tip when a server has done a really good job (of course they should be paid a decent wage too). For me the annoying bit is being asked to tip before I have been served - I don't know yet if I would like to leave a big tip or a small one.

hgsgm 4y ago
So you tip the cook when the cook does a really good job?
- blacksmith_tb 4y ago
  At least in the cafes I worked in as an undergrad we split tips between the waitstaff and kitchen, which of course also sort of shifts around the "rewarding good service" aspect, but I think then you feel like you're letting down your coworkers if you piss off customers enough for them to tip badly.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    How do you determine which labor there is a point to leaving a tip for and which labor there is not a point to leave a tip for?
    - s1artibartfast 4y ago
      Why does it matter? That isn't some kind of gotcha. I wouldn't mind if 100% of customer facing jobs were tipped. At worst, is an optional lower price to pay if you are dissatisfied or light on cash. Normally it is just I'm part of the price. I'm not sure why people would be so much happier paying 120% the price instead of 100% and then a 20% tip. It's all the same in the end
      - yardstick 4y ago
        Would you tip an airline attendant who served you a meal/drink?
      - tempestn 4y ago
        Part of the problem is that an expectation of tipping is cropping up in many places where it didn't exist before, and prices certainly haven't dropped 20% to compensate. In these circumstances I would rather just pay 100% of the price and be done.
      - samwhiteUK 4y ago
        I want to pay 100% of the price, otherwise I'm overpaying.
      - lotsofpulp 4y ago
        What is customer facing? Doctor to patient? Employee to employer? Real estate agent to homeowner? Everyone is selling their labor to someone, and everyone has a customer.
      - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
        I think it's partly a crude fix for the problem of some states allowing for waiters and bartenders specifically to be paid below minimum wage[1], as low as $2.13 per hour in some states! Which is of course far worse than most customer-facing jobs. 1: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
  - CalRobert 4y ago
    When I was a dish washer I worked my ass off (meanwhile the cooks just filled baskets with sous vide crap and pushed a button). I didn't get jack.
- midasuni 4y ago
  Or plumber, or mailman, or pilot, or cop?

hgsgm 4y ago

So you tip the cook when the cook does a really good job?

blacksmith_tb 4y ago
At least in the cafes I worked in as an undergrad we split tips between the waitstaff and kitchen, which of course also sort of shifts around the "rewarding good service" aspect, but I think then you feel like you're letting down your coworkers if you piss off customers enough for them to tip badly.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  How do you determine which labor there is a point to leaving a tip for and which labor there is not a point to leave a tip for?
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    Why does it matter? That isn't some kind of gotcha. I wouldn't mind if 100% of customer facing jobs were tipped. At worst, is an optional lower price to pay if you are dissatisfied or light on cash. Normally it is just I'm part of the price. I'm not sure why people would be so much happier paying 120% the price instead of 100% and then a 20% tip. It's all the same in the end
    - yardstick 4y ago
      Would you tip an airline attendant who served you a meal/drink?
    - tempestn 4y ago
      Part of the problem is that an expectation of tipping is cropping up in many places where it didn't exist before, and prices certainly haven't dropped 20% to compensate. In these circumstances I would rather just pay 100% of the price and be done.
    - samwhiteUK 4y ago
      I want to pay 100% of the price, otherwise I'm overpaying.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      What is customer facing? Doctor to patient? Employee to employer? Real estate agent to homeowner? Everyone is selling their labor to someone, and everyone has a customer.
    - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
      I think it's partly a crude fix for the problem of some states allowing for waiters and bartenders specifically to be paid below minimum wage[1], as low as $2.13 per hour in some states! Which is of course far worse than most customer-facing jobs. 1: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
- CalRobert 4y ago
  When I was a dish washer I worked my ass off (meanwhile the cooks just filled baskets with sous vide crap and pushed a button). I didn't get jack.
midasuni 4y ago
Or plumber, or mailman, or pilot, or cop?