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I'll deal with forever kings if it means not dying. I quite enjoy life.

lostlogin 4y ago
But those that get it first will be the wealthiest. Many of those wouldn’t use their gain for good and may actually use it to do harm. An eternal Putin? A permanent Xi?
- stephc_int13 4y ago
  Don't be fooled by this idea that those individuals have any real power. They are in a silent contract with the aristocracy around them, and the same process repeats all the way down the base of the pyramid. The only reason it is difficult to get rid of tyrants is because a large amount of people in their countries benefits from this arrangement.
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    Oh for sure, but that isn’t all that helpful if you’re on the receiving end of their genocidal behaviour.
    - stephc_int13 4y ago
      I am not saying that tyrants are non-issue. I am saying that this particular problem is not related to the increase of life expectancy. The fact that tyrants are dying of old age at some point does not solve anything, if they have support, they are replaced. The Hitler issue would never be as easy as killing baby Hitler.
      - lostlogin 4y ago
        > The Hitler issue would never be as easy as killing baby Hitler. I agree that killing baby Hitler wouldn’t help, but that’s not what’s being discussed. A stroke-free Stalin would have been an issue. Extreme environments lead to extreme leaders. I’m not sure that giving unlimited time is a good idea, as that would seem likely to cement a situation permanently.
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  An eternal Putin might actually value life more than the current one does. Being ageless doesn't mean you're immortal. He would be even more worried about assassination than he is now.
mensetmanusman 4y ago
You would still die though, the king would just not age…
zirgs 4y ago
But that would also mean never retiring. You'll have to work forever.
- DennisP 4y ago
  There are various options: 1) Instead of getting sick and feeble, enjoy your health until you've had enough, then take up free climbing or wing jumping, and enjoy that until you go out with a bang. 2) Save your money, and periodically take a sabbatical for a few years. 3) Find a job that doesn't seem worse than slowly falling apart until you die.
- causality0 4y ago
  Do you hate your job so much that the hope of eventual retirement is the only reason you don't kill yourself?

But those that get it first will be the wealthiest. Many of those wouldn’t use their gain for good and may actually use it to do harm. An eternal Putin? A permanent Xi?

stephc_int13 4y ago
Don't be fooled by this idea that those individuals have any real power. They are in a silent contract with the aristocracy around them, and the same process repeats all the way down the base of the pyramid. The only reason it is difficult to get rid of tyrants is because a large amount of people in their countries benefits from this arrangement.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  Oh for sure, but that isn’t all that helpful if you’re on the receiving end of their genocidal behaviour.
  - stephc_int13 4y ago
    I am not saying that tyrants are non-issue. I am saying that this particular problem is not related to the increase of life expectancy. The fact that tyrants are dying of old age at some point does not solve anything, if they have support, they are replaced. The Hitler issue would never be as easy as killing baby Hitler.
    - lostlogin 4y ago
      > The Hitler issue would never be as easy as killing baby Hitler. I agree that killing baby Hitler wouldn’t help, but that’s not what’s being discussed. A stroke-free Stalin would have been an issue. Extreme environments lead to extreme leaders. I’m not sure that giving unlimited time is a good idea, as that would seem likely to cement a situation permanently.
CamperBob2 4y ago
An eternal Putin might actually value life more than the current one does. Being ageless doesn't mean you're immortal. He would be even more worried about assassination than he is now.

mensetmanusman 4y ago

You would still die though, the king would just not age…

zirgs 4y ago

But that would also mean never retiring. You'll have to work forever.

DennisP 4y ago
There are various options: 1) Instead of getting sick and feeble, enjoy your health until you've had enough, then take up free climbing or wing jumping, and enjoy that until you go out with a bang. 2) Save your money, and periodically take a sabbatical for a few years. 3) Find a job that doesn't seem worse than slowly falling apart until you die.
causality0 4y ago
Do you hate your job so much that the hope of eventual retirement is the only reason you don't kill yourself?