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Firstly there’s zero chance this was the guy’s first rodeo. Second, without a custodial sentence it wont be his last. When these stories end in tragedy there’s

Firstly there’s zero chance this was the guy’s first rodeo. Second, without a custodial sentence it wont be his last. When these stories end in tragedy there’s always the part of the story that goes something like “…X had previously been reported on no fewer than Y occasions for similar behaviour.”

mabbo 4y ago
Maybe. Or maybe part of the sentence was mandatory mental health treatment. Maybe this is the rock bottom that leads to this person getting the help they need and getting their life together. He's also now known to the police for this sort of behaviour. If anyone reports anything even minor about him, he's lost any benefit of the doubt.
yosito 4y ago
My thoughts exactly. If this guy was going through so much trouble to stalk someone over six months, a fine isn't going to stop him. He probably considers it to be a worthy cost for his obsession. A part of me feels that this guy should be humiliated and beat to within inches of his own life. His behavior certainly deserves that, in a karmic sense. But that probably isn't the best way to protect the victim here. Probably the best way is some sort of custodial sentence, house arrest/monitoring, and compulsory therapy and/or medication.
- Major_Grooves 4y ago
  Indeed the same though crossed our minds (as I write in the article) that it is unlikely to be his first offence. We actually did not want to humiliate him, and believe me we had the opportunity, because we did not want to "push him over the edge". I kinda hope he has kept his job so he can try to get help and stop himself doing this again.
yieldcrv 4y ago
There's always a first, and there's always a first report. All of this requires someone making the report.
Tangurena2 4y ago
Stalkers and rapists act knowing that they have approximately zero risk of getting caught. And if caught, a less than one percent chance of conviction. > The breakdown between the modus operandi of the rapists also tells us a lot about how wrong the script is. Of all 120 admitted rapists, only about 30% reported using force or threats, while the remainder raped intoxicated victims. This proportion was roughly the same between the 44 rapists who reported one assault and the 76 who reported multiple assaults. > If we could eliminate the men who rape again and again and again, a quarter of the violence against women and children would disappear. > The vast majority of the offenses are being committed by a relatively small group of men, somewhere between 4% and 8% of the population, who do it again … and again … and again. That just doesn’t square with the notion of innocent mistake. Further, since the repeaters are also responsible for a hugely disproportionate share of the intimate partner violence, child beating and child sexual abuse, the notion that these predators are somehow confused good guys does not square with the data. Most of the raping is done by guys who like to rape, and to abuse, assault and violate. If we could get the one-in-twelve or one-in-25 repeat rapists out of the population (that is a lot of men — perhaps six or twelve million men in the U.S. alone) or find a way to stop them from hurting others, most sexual assault, and a lot of intimate partner violence and child abuse, would go away. Really. [0] And: > The result is a criminal justice system that shows an unexamined bias toward accused sexual predators—particularly those from the dominant race and class—by protecting them in advance from punishments that (in practice) very rarely materialize. And this is a hypercorrection that occurs again and again even though false claims remain statistically minuscule, and even though less than 1 percent of rapes result in a conviction. [1] 0 - https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/ https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-pr... 1 - https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/cockblocking-rapists-is-a-moral-obligation-or-how-to-stop-rape-right-now/ https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/cockblockin...

mabbo 4y ago

Maybe. Or maybe part of the sentence was mandatory mental health treatment. Maybe this is the rock bottom that leads to this person getting the help they need and getting their life together. He's also now known to the police for this sort of behaviour. If anyone reports anything even minor about him, he's lost any benefit of the doubt.

yosito 4y ago

My thoughts exactly. If this guy was going through so much trouble to stalk someone over six months, a fine isn't going to stop him. He probably considers it to be a worthy cost for his obsession. A part of me feels that this guy should be humiliated and beat to within inches of his own life. His behavior certainly deserves that, in a karmic sense. But that probably isn't the best way to protect the victim here. Probably the best way is some sort of custodial sentence, house arrest/monitoring, and compulsory therapy and/or medication.

Major_Grooves 4y ago
Indeed the same though crossed our minds (as I write in the article) that it is unlikely to be his first offence. We actually did not want to humiliate him, and believe me we had the opportunity, because we did not want to "push him over the edge". I kinda hope he has kept his job so he can try to get help and stop himself doing this again.

yieldcrv 4y ago

There's always a first, and there's always a first report. All of this requires someone making the report.

Tangurena2 4y ago

Stalkers and rapists act knowing that they have approximately zero risk of getting caught. And if caught, a less than one percent chance of conviction. > The breakdown between the modus operandi of the rapists also tells us a lot about how wrong the script is. Of all 120 admitted rapists, only about 30% reported using force or threats, while the remainder raped intoxicated victims. This proportion was roughly the same between the 44 rapists who reported one assault and the 76 who reported multiple assaults. > If we could eliminate the men who rape again and again and again, a quarter of the violence against women and children would disappear. > The vast majority of the offenses are being committed by a relatively small group of men, somewhere between 4% and 8% of the population, who do it again … and again … and again. That just doesn’t square with the notion of innocent mistake. Further, since the repeaters are also responsible for a hugely disproportionate share of the intimate partner violence, child beating and child sexual abuse, the notion that these predators are somehow confused good guys does not square with the data. Most of the raping is done by guys who like to rape, and to abuse, assault and violate. If we could get the one-in-twelve or one-in-25 repeat rapists out of the population (that is a lot of men — perhaps six or twelve million men in the U.S. alone) or find a way to stop them from hurting others, most sexual assault, and a lot of intimate partner violence and child abuse, would go away. Really. [0] And: > The result is a criminal justice system that shows an unexamined bias toward accused sexual predators—particularly those from the dominant race and class—by protecting them in advance from punishments that (in practice) very rarely materialize. And this is a hypercorrection that occurs again and again even though false claims remain statistically minuscule, and even though less than 1 percent of rapes result in a conviction. [1] 0 - https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/ https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-pr... 1 - https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/cockblocking-rapists-is-a-moral-obligation-or-how-to-stop-rape-right-now/ https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/cockblockin...