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Nice! I also use inotifywait for hot reload when writing https://www.oilshell.org/ https://www.oilshell.org/ I never heard of the xdotool method ... although

by chubot 4y ago

Nice! I also use inotifywait for hot reload when writing https://www.oilshell.org/ https://www.oilshell.org/ I never heard of the xdotool method ... although it sounds like it has some drawbacks? https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotreload.sh https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotre... I do it with a crappy Python web server that dynamically inserts some JavaScript. This also has bugs and drawbacks, though I don't think any fundamental ones ... At some point I would like to "make it nice", but it has been working well in practice for years I think the method is reasonable, and doesn't depend on your local desktop environment as much. I also have a Makefile for incremental rebuilds, but I would really like to replace that with Ninja. Ninja goes pretty well with shell (although it also has the issue of needing to escape $ as $$)

adityaathalye 4y ago
Lovely to hear from you, Andy! Thank you for sharing. It's good to know this work is in fine company :) > although it sounds like it has some drawbacks? Oh yes. The Xdotool Reload Method emulates keystrokes, so it has... drawbacks... as you put it mildly :) For my use-case, it literally does F5, or it fills out a url and hits Enter. cf. this `case` statement: https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotreload.sh#L114 https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotre... I wanted to keep /mandatory/ moving parts to a minimum in a hand-rolled setup. So I sort of went hardline about avoiding prerequisites like a server process, and especially a JS client. The xdotool trick worked surprisingly well (for the most part), and so I stuck with it! > it has been working well in practice for years This is the holy grail. I really hope I get years-long stability out of it. Based on my experience so far, I feel good about the long-term odds. > I also have a Makefile for incremental rebuilds, but I would really like to replace that with Ninja. I was going to write a Makefile at some point. I'll have a look at Ninja. Thanks for the tip!

by chubot 4y ago

adityaathalye 4y ago

Lovely to hear from you, Andy! Thank you for sharing. It's good to know this work is in fine company :) > although it sounds like it has some drawbacks? Oh yes. The Xdotool Reload Method emulates keystrokes, so it has... drawbacks... as you put it mildly :) For my use-case, it literally does F5, or it fills out a url and hits Enter. cf. this `case` statement: https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotreload.sh#L114 https://github.com/adityaathalye/shite/blob/master/bin/hotre... I wanted to keep /mandatory/ moving parts to a minimum in a hand-rolled setup. So I sort of went hardline about avoiding prerequisites like a server process, and especially a JS client. The xdotool trick worked surprisingly well (for the most part), and so I stuck with it! > it has been working well in practice for years This is the holy grail. I really hope I get years-long stability out of it. Based on my experience so far, I feel good about the long-term odds. > I also have a Makefile for incremental rebuilds, but I would really like to replace that with Ninja. I was going to write a Makefile at some point. I'll have a look at Ninja. Thanks for the tip!