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Alan Kay addresses Qualcomm https://vimeo.com/82301919 https://vimeo.com/82301919

m_mueller 4y ago
Thank you! Is he actually running their own OS here, or is it just a scripted slide application? What I saw was more of a smaller talk given to students if I remember correctly, where he goes into the technical details of his setup a bit.
- morphle 4y ago
  Please see the comments on this Morphle HN account for those Alan Kay talks or mail morphle &at& ziggo &dot& nl for all those Alan Kay links student lectures you remember.
- jecel 4y ago
  The OS (in 20K lines of code) is called "Frank" and in the talks where Alan uses it for his slides at one point he zooms out and you can see a cartoon Frankenstein monster in the top left corner. You might find this list of Kay's talks interesting: https://tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay https://tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay
- morphle 4y ago
  I am one of three people who have this code running live. It is way more amazing than you think, it is not scripted at all. Its a full OS/GUI personal computer in 20 KLOC, no external libraries. The graphics for example are just 435 lines of code (versus millions for Cairo).
  - m_mueller 4y ago
    Have you considered creating e.g. a YouTube Series going through it? Or contacting e.g. Computerphile? This is way too awesome not to share with the world. How did you get involved, have you been working for Alan Kay?
    - morphle 4y ago
      I got involved when I was 17 years old back in 1981 reading about the Alto and Smalltalk in Byte magazine. Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls at Xerox PARC had build this amazing GUI, programming language and virtual machine [4]. By 1985 I was building my first Smalltalk Transputer Supercomputer and typing in the code listing of the Blue Book. Byte magazine even invited us to publish this supercomputer on their front page as a DIY construction kit for their readers. Things got really interesting in 1996 when Alan and Dan released Squeak Smalltalk with Etoys as free and open source with this almost metacircular virtual machine. In 2008 we had progressed to designing SiliconSqueak, a Smalltalk Wafer Scale Integration, a 10.000 manycore microprocessor with the late bound message passing Squeak Smalltalk as its IDE, operating system and the RoarVM virtual machine with adaptive compilation. We are still working on that, it costs $100K for the mask set that you send to the TSMC chip fab and you get back a 180nm wafer with the 10 billion transistor supercomputer for $600 a piece. Getting funding for mask sets at smaller nodes like $3 million for 28nm or the most advanced 3nm node what costs over 50 million for a million cores is a life's work. We have not been directly working for Alan Kay, Dan Ingalls or David Ungar but we exchange emails, write scientific papers [2], give lectures [1] and meet in online video sessions [1] with the vibrant Smalltalk community. When these researchers release the source code like the STEPS project, RoarVM or the Lively Kernel we try to port it to our SiliconSqueak supercomputer prototypes and of course we develop our own Smalltalk of the Future, parallel adaptive compilers, virtual machines and hardware X86 emulators. So to answer your first question, yes, there are hundreds of lectures and talks on Youtube and we share all this work with the world. Bret Victor's, Dans or Alans lectures are just a small part of that. The hard part of our research is getting $100K funding together for the 10.000 core supercomputer, a $2000 wafer scale integration (WSI) computer is a little to big an amount for a crowdfunding project. So I still hope YCombinator will fund me, but they have this silly 'no single founder' restriction. You seem to be a researcher at ETH Zurich, why don't you join me as cofounder? We make a 3 cent Smalltalk microcontroller (an ALTO on a chip) and a $1 version with 4 MB and gigabit ethernet, with Smalltalk, Etoys and Scratch built in you get a superior Raspberry Pi/Arduino successor that 5 year old children can program because Smalltalk and Etoys where designed with children in mind. Our Morphle WSI would be a great desktop supercomputer but the real advance would be the $20.000 (retail price) costing 3nm wafer scale integration. More than 40 trillion transistors, a runtime reconfigurable amount of 1 million cores and the full IDE, GUI and OS in 10.000 lines of Smalltalk language, IDE, GUI and OS at exaflops per second. Way more advanced than CUDA on a GPU. I gave a 2 hour talk on that: [1] https://vimeo.com/731037615 https://vimeo.com/731037615 [2] https://scholar.google.nl/citations?user=mWS92YsAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao https://scholar.google.nl/citations?user=mWS92YsAAAAJ&hl=en&... https://scholar.google.nl/citations?hl=en&user=6wa49gkAAAAJ https://scholar.google.nl/citations?hl=en&user=6wa49gkAAAAJ [3] https://web.archive.org/web/20140501222143/http://www.morphle.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140501222143/http://www.morphl... [4] https://youtu.be/id1WShzzMCQ?t=519 https://youtu.be/id1WShzzMCQ?t=519

Thank you! Is he actually running their own OS here, or is it just a scripted slide application? What I saw was more of a smaller talk given to students if I remember correctly, where he goes into the technical details of his setup a bit.

morphle 4y ago
Please see the comments on this Morphle HN account for those Alan Kay talks or mail morphle &at& ziggo &dot& nl for all those Alan Kay links student lectures you remember.
jecel 4y ago
The OS (in 20K lines of code) is called "Frank" and in the talks where Alan uses it for his slides at one point he zooms out and you can see a cartoon Frankenstein monster in the top left corner. You might find this list of Kay's talks interesting: https://tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay https://tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay
morphle 4y ago
I am one of three people who have this code running live. It is way more amazing than you think, it is not scripted at all. Its a full OS/GUI personal computer in 20 KLOC, no external libraries. The graphics for example are just 435 lines of code (versus millions for Cairo).
- m_mueller 4y ago
  Have you considered creating e.g. a YouTube Series going through it? Or contacting e.g. Computerphile? This is way too awesome not to share with the world. How did you get involved, have you been working for Alan Kay?
  - morphle 4y ago
    I got involved when I was 17 years old back in 1981 reading about the Alto and Smalltalk in Byte magazine. Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls at Xerox PARC had build this amazing GUI, programming language and virtual machine [4]. By 1985 I was building my first Smalltalk Transputer Supercomputer and typing in the code listing of the Blue Book. Byte magazine even invited us to publish this supercomputer on their front page as a DIY construction kit for their readers. Things got really interesting in 1996 when Alan and Dan released Squeak Smalltalk with Etoys as free and open source with this almost metacircular virtual machine. In 2008 we had progressed to designing SiliconSqueak, a Smalltalk Wafer Scale Integration, a 10.000 manycore microprocessor with the late bound message passing Squeak Smalltalk as its IDE, operating system and the RoarVM virtual machine with adaptive compilation. We are still working on that, it costs $100K for the mask set that you send to the TSMC chip fab and you get back a 180nm wafer with the 10 billion transistor supercomputer for $600 a piece. Getting funding for mask sets at smaller nodes like $3 million for 28nm or the most advanced 3nm node what costs over 50 million for a million cores is a life's work. We have not been directly working for Alan Kay, Dan Ingalls or David Ungar but we exchange emails, write scientific papers [2], give lectures [1] and meet in online video sessions [1] with the vibrant Smalltalk community. When these researchers release the source code like the STEPS project, RoarVM or the Lively Kernel we try to port it to our SiliconSqueak supercomputer prototypes and of course we develop our own Smalltalk of the Future, parallel adaptive compilers, virtual machines and hardware X86 emulators. So to answer your first question, yes, there are hundreds of lectures and talks on Youtube and we share all this work with the world. Bret Victor's, Dans or Alans lectures are just a small part of that. The hard part of our research is getting $100K funding together for the 10.000 core supercomputer, a $2000 wafer scale integration (WSI) computer is a little to big an amount for a crowdfunding project. So I still hope YCombinator will fund me, but they have this silly 'no single founder' restriction. You seem to be a researcher at ETH Zurich, why don't you join me as cofounder? We make a 3 cent Smalltalk microcontroller (an ALTO on a chip) and a $1 version with 4 MB and gigabit ethernet, with Smalltalk, Etoys and Scratch built in you get a superior Raspberry Pi/Arduino successor that 5 year old children can program because Smalltalk and Etoys where designed with children in mind. Our Morphle WSI would be a great desktop supercomputer but the real advance would be the $20.000 (retail price) costing 3nm wafer scale integration. More than 40 trillion transistors, a runtime reconfigurable amount of 1 million cores and the full IDE, GUI and OS in 10.000 lines of Smalltalk language, IDE, GUI and OS at exaflops per second. Way more advanced than CUDA on a GPU. I gave a 2 hour talk on that: [1] https://vimeo.com/731037615 https://vimeo.com/731037615 [2] https://scholar.google.nl/citations?user=mWS92YsAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao https://scholar.google.nl/citations?user=mWS92YsAAAAJ&hl=en&... https://scholar.google.nl/citations?hl=en&user=6wa49gkAAAAJ https://scholar.google.nl/citations?hl=en&user=6wa49gkAAAAJ [3] https://web.archive.org/web/20140501222143/http://www.morphle.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140501222143/http://www.morphl... [4] https://youtu.be/id1WShzzMCQ?t=519 https://youtu.be/id1WShzzMCQ?t=519