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Or just make fentanyl very hard to prescribe? We are getting dumber by the minute.

ok_dad 4y ago
The drug war proved that making it harder to get things doesn’t help.
friedman23 4y ago
The problem is not fentanyl prescriptions, it's fentanyl being slipped into other drugs. I imagine for a drug user this could be a life saver.
sterlind 4y ago
nearly all the fentanyl on the street is illegally manufactured, not diverted from prescriptions. fentanyl is ideal for smuggling because of how potent it is, and ideal for clandestine manufacture because it doesn't require opium as a starting material.
nyolfen 4y ago
most fentanyl is manufactured in clandestine labs in mexico and distributed by drug gangs
- cantSpellSober 4y ago
  Most fentanyl is manufactured in China, most illicit fentanyl is produced in Mexico. (nitpick)
  - nyolfen 4y ago
    i suspect illicit fentanyl greatly outweighs legitimate at this point
    - cantSpellSober 4y ago
      any reason but speculation? If so, please inform the DEA! https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-...
      - nyolfen 4y ago
        fentanyl is a relatively exotic pharmaceutical and is not widely prescribed except in very serious or unusual circumstances. i have read a good deal about production shifting from china to mexico in the last few years with china shifting more toward precursors following a ccp crackdown, but what i've read today suggests that the bulk is still produced and finished in china for export, with india's chemical industry as a potential major new source. i found this collection enlightening: https://insightcrime.org/investigations/mexico-deadly-rise-fentanyl/ https://insightcrime.org/investigations/mexico-deadly-rise-f... i have very strong certainty that illicit fentanyl production outweighs legitimate simply due to the fact that it is not widely prescribed while it is crowding out the entire hard drug market in the US, but illicit fent still appears to mostly be produced by china for now.
        cantSpellSober 4y ago
        > most fentanyl is manufactured in clandestine labs in mexico contradicts your later statement > the bulk is still produced and finished in china for export > illicit fent still appears to mostly be produced by china for now
        nyolfen 4y ago
        yes, that is why i was writing that comment, to point out corrections to both of our previous comments, hence "what i've read today"
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The drug war proved that making it harder to get things doesn’t help.

The problem is not fentanyl prescriptions, it's fentanyl being slipped into other drugs. I imagine for a drug user this could be a life saver.

sterlind 4y ago

nearly all the fentanyl on the street is illegally manufactured, not diverted from prescriptions. fentanyl is ideal for smuggling because of how potent it is, and ideal for clandestine manufacture because it doesn't require opium as a starting material.

nyolfen 4y ago

most fentanyl is manufactured in clandestine labs in mexico and distributed by drug gangs

cantSpellSober 4y ago
Most fentanyl is manufactured in China, most illicit fentanyl is produced in Mexico. (nitpick)
- nyolfen 4y ago
  i suspect illicit fentanyl greatly outweighs legitimate at this point
  - cantSpellSober 4y ago
    any reason but speculation? If so, please inform the DEA! https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-...
    - nyolfen 4y ago
      fentanyl is a relatively exotic pharmaceutical and is not widely prescribed except in very serious or unusual circumstances. i have read a good deal about production shifting from china to mexico in the last few years with china shifting more toward precursors following a ccp crackdown, but what i've read today suggests that the bulk is still produced and finished in china for export, with india's chemical industry as a potential major new source. i found this collection enlightening: https://insightcrime.org/investigations/mexico-deadly-rise-fentanyl/ https://insightcrime.org/investigations/mexico-deadly-rise-f... i have very strong certainty that illicit fentanyl production outweighs legitimate simply due to the fact that it is not widely prescribed while it is crowding out the entire hard drug market in the US, but illicit fent still appears to mostly be produced by china for now.
      - cantSpellSober 4y ago
        > most fentanyl is manufactured in clandestine labs in mexico contradicts your later statement > the bulk is still produced and finished in china for export > illicit fent still appears to mostly be produced by china for now
        nyolfen 4y ago
        yes, that is why i was writing that comment, to point out corrections to both of our previous comments, hence "what i've read today"

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