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> //sidenote we also want to abolish all public unions (including teachers union) as public sector employees use their union to corrupt the election process in

> //sidenote we also want to abolish all public unions (including teachers union) as public sector employees use their union to corrupt the election process in their favor screwing over the tax payer who ends up having no one in their favor in contract talks. This sounds like trading away some freedom of association for a small group of people — ostensibly for the greater good — which isn’t very pro-liberty in my eyes. Where I live, while the taxpayers do not attend these contract talks we have the final word in that we ultimately decide to pass the school budget or not through voting.

notch656c 4y ago
anti-union is anti-libertarian imo. But I can't gatekeep libertarianism, it's just my personal opinion. Pure unbridled free market will crush unions anyway, both the kinds formed by corporations (collusion) and those formed by employees (union). There is no need to legislate such action as market forces influence actors towards the more economical choice.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >Pure unbridled free market will crush unions anyway Unless they are public sector union which face not market competition at all, as they are government employees. Thus the problem with them I was very clear to not be "Anti-union" as you seem to claim but I am very much anti-PUBLIC SECTOR unions as there is clear conflict of interest inherent in those. Many libertrian are "pro union" for the private sector but are opposed to public sector union because of this clear conflict
phpisthebest 4y ago
There are lots of things that are traded way when it comes to government. The libertarian solution to the Teachers Union issue is to have schools run by private organizations not attached to the government, thus would be free to unionize and have all the union benefits. So long as they are a public employee who vote, and who use their power to have outside influence over the ones who are supposed to be representing all taxpayers not just the ones in the union, there is a clear conflict of interest when it comes to PUBLIC sector unions. Want to be in a union, support backpack funding of private schools and end public schools Hell even FDR was opposed to Public Sector Unions

notch656c 4y ago

anti-union is anti-libertarian imo. But I can't gatekeep libertarianism, it's just my personal opinion. Pure unbridled free market will crush unions anyway, both the kinds formed by corporations (collusion) and those formed by employees (union). There is no need to legislate such action as market forces influence actors towards the more economical choice.

phpisthebest 4y ago
>Pure unbridled free market will crush unions anyway Unless they are public sector union which face not market competition at all, as they are government employees. Thus the problem with them I was very clear to not be "Anti-union" as you seem to claim but I am very much anti-PUBLIC SECTOR unions as there is clear conflict of interest inherent in those. Many libertrian are "pro union" for the private sector but are opposed to public sector union because of this clear conflict

phpisthebest 4y ago

There are lots of things that are traded way when it comes to government. The libertarian solution to the Teachers Union issue is to have schools run by private organizations not attached to the government, thus would be free to unionize and have all the union benefits. So long as they are a public employee who vote, and who use their power to have outside influence over the ones who are supposed to be representing all taxpayers not just the ones in the union, there is a clear conflict of interest when it comes to PUBLIC sector unions. Want to be in a union, support backpack funding of private schools and end public schools Hell even FDR was opposed to Public Sector Unions