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> and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target Are you the president of the United States? Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you openly

> and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target Are you the president of the United States? Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you openly a member of a gang or other criminal organization? If not, then, quite plainly, you're not a target. Period.

seanw444 4y ago
Hmm. Watch Active Self Protection on YouTube, and tell me that again. You'd be surprised how often people get targeted for no reason / stupid reasons. Frankly, I find that the people that oppose guns and concealed carry are usually the type that live in nice neighborhoods and make nearly six figures, where the opinion is invalid. So, basically the demographic of Hacker News.
- soco 4y ago
  How about this crazy idea that instead of bringing war to those nice neighborhoods, to try to make all neighborhoods better?
  - seanw444 4y ago
    "Bringing war" is a misunderstanding of the point. It's to have the means to defend yourself if you become a victim. Not to initiate it.
  - EForEndeavour 4y ago
    I don't want to come off as a troll, but I honestly believe that a person can do both those things at the same time: 1. Do what you can to make all neighbourhoods better. (Donate to or volunteer at local organizations working to improve neighbourhoods, get to know your neighbours, vote for positive change, join neighbourhood watch, etc.) 2. Do what you can to protect yourself until Step 1 comes to fruition. (Avoid high-risk areas, maintain situational awareness, train in self-defense, carry self-defense tools, etc.)
notch656c 4y ago
Lol, one day I was riding my bicycle home, and had to pass through a very poor part of town in which I am a racial minority. My bike got a flat just that moment. Someone took notice of my weakness that I had to stop and fix the flat and that I was obviously not from the neighborhood. They put a gun to my head. That disabused me of any notion I am never a target.

seanw444 4y ago

Hmm. Watch Active Self Protection on YouTube, and tell me that again. You'd be surprised how often people get targeted for no reason / stupid reasons. Frankly, I find that the people that oppose guns and concealed carry are usually the type that live in nice neighborhoods and make nearly six figures, where the opinion is invalid. So, basically the demographic of Hacker News.

soco 4y ago
How about this crazy idea that instead of bringing war to those nice neighborhoods, to try to make all neighborhoods better?
- seanw444 4y ago
  "Bringing war" is a misunderstanding of the point. It's to have the means to defend yourself if you become a victim. Not to initiate it.
- EForEndeavour 4y ago
  I don't want to come off as a troll, but I honestly believe that a person can do both those things at the same time: 1. Do what you can to make all neighbourhoods better. (Donate to or volunteer at local organizations working to improve neighbourhoods, get to know your neighbours, vote for positive change, join neighbourhood watch, etc.) 2. Do what you can to protect yourself until Step 1 comes to fruition. (Avoid high-risk areas, maintain situational awareness, train in self-defense, carry self-defense tools, etc.)

notch656c 4y ago

Lol, one day I was riding my bicycle home, and had to pass through a very poor part of town in which I am a racial minority. My bike got a flat just that moment. Someone took notice of my weakness that I had to stop and fix the flat and that I was obviously not from the neighborhood. They put a gun to my head. That disabused me of any notion I am never a target.