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This inspired Nostr which seems to be all the rage lately https://nostr.com https://nostr.com Nostr is self-signed (and optionally encrypted) "notes" that are

This inspired Nostr which seems to be all the rage lately https://nostr.com https://nostr.com Nostr is self-signed (and optionally encrypted) "notes" that are passed around using "dumb relays" it's a pretty cool concept, and it has attracted a lot of active devs/projects.

celtoid 4y ago
Nostr will be a widely adopted protocol within the next few years. A social network with a built in payment system will be very useful in places like Africa, South America, etc. Americans will most likely miss the boat, per usual.
lucideer 4y ago
First time hearing of Nostr - looks really nice. From the protocol README section "The problem with SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt)" - it lists a few small things but is mostly complimentary of SSB. One of the big issues I always had with SSB is efficiency/scaling/message size/db size. Is this something Nostr addresses or considers, or is it likely to suffer from similar scaling issues with heavy use?
- kdragon 4y ago
  Nostr partially addresses this in a few ways: * Media itself is not stored, only links to media. * Relays are free to limit usage, charge a fee or require proof of work. * There are many kinds of messages with different storage standards i.e ephemeral messages are not stored at all.
  - lucideer 4y ago
    Not storing media sounds odd (prone to linkrot), but I guess this feature is likely optional? I'm not an expert but the SSB scaling issues seem related to the architecture being tied to the sigchain, & general feed immutability. This makes it very difficult for pubs to, for example, accept/process subsets of posts or do anything out-of-order. It also makes it impossible for clients to limit local database storage, especially mobile clients where that might be at a premium. Even just the existence of ephemeral notes seems to indicate there's no such architectural limitation so that sounds really hopeful.
ASalazarMX 4y ago
> This inspired Nostr which seems to be all the rage lately Lately for me seems to be since last week, at least on Twitter. People started promoting Nostr whenever someone mentioned moving to Mastodon. The posts associated with the hashtag #nostr seem to be directly or indirectly associated with cryptobros, a significant red flag.

celtoid 4y ago

Nostr will be a widely adopted protocol within the next few years. A social network with a built in payment system will be very useful in places like Africa, South America, etc. Americans will most likely miss the boat, per usual.

lucideer 4y ago

First time hearing of Nostr - looks really nice. From the protocol README section "The problem with SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt)" - it lists a few small things but is mostly complimentary of SSB. One of the big issues I always had with SSB is efficiency/scaling/message size/db size. Is this something Nostr addresses or considers, or is it likely to suffer from similar scaling issues with heavy use?

kdragon 4y ago
Nostr partially addresses this in a few ways: * Media itself is not stored, only links to media. * Relays are free to limit usage, charge a fee or require proof of work. * There are many kinds of messages with different storage standards i.e ephemeral messages are not stored at all.
- lucideer 4y ago
  Not storing media sounds odd (prone to linkrot), but I guess this feature is likely optional? I'm not an expert but the SSB scaling issues seem related to the architecture being tied to the sigchain, & general feed immutability. This makes it very difficult for pubs to, for example, accept/process subsets of posts or do anything out-of-order. It also makes it impossible for clients to limit local database storage, especially mobile clients where that might be at a premium. Even just the existence of ephemeral notes seems to indicate there's no such architectural limitation so that sounds really hopeful.

ASalazarMX 4y ago

> This inspired Nostr which seems to be all the rage lately Lately for me seems to be since last week, at least on Twitter. People started promoting Nostr whenever someone mentioned moving to Mastodon. The posts associated with the hashtag #nostr seem to be directly or indirectly associated with cryptobros, a significant red flag.