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Nothing's ever been ok in Florida. They do their own thing down there, and we stay far away from the crazyness. Each state is semi-independent with the federa

by jdlyga 4y ago

Nothing's ever been ok in Florida. They do their own thing down there, and we stay far away from the crazyness. Each state is semi-independent with the federal/state separation of powers. It's good for vacation though.

srndsnd 4y ago
I dunno. As the country bifurcates more and more, I'm thinking long and hard about if I want to travel to certain states. I'd rather as little of my money as possible be spent there.
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  Don’t worry, your federal tax dollars get routed to these states automatically.
- deleted 4y ago
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- gadflyinyoureye 4y ago
  I know how you feel. I refuse to go to Virginia since they don't accept my CCW permit from Florida.
  - seanw444 4y ago
    I don't step in non-constitutional-carry states. The good thing is that, with the exception of basically Florida, there are no states I care to visit that don't already have it. The problem is traveling to those states. I'm temporarily a felon to get there, even though it is my right to keep and bear that handgun nationally. Beats me. I will not contribute my money to a government that does not allow me my rights, and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target just to temporarily sight-see. Not worth it. Plenty of pretty sights to see in the states that aren't ridiculous.
    - mynameisvlad 4y ago
      > and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target Are you the president of the United States? Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you openly a member of a gang or other criminal organization? If not, then, quite plainly, you're not a target. Period.
      - seanw444 4y ago
        Hmm. Watch Active Self Protection on YouTube, and tell me that again. You'd be surprised how often people get targeted for no reason / stupid reasons. Frankly, I find that the people that oppose guns and concealed carry are usually the type that live in nice neighborhoods and make nearly six figures, where the opinion is invalid. So, basically the demographic of Hacker News.
        soco 4y ago
        How about this crazy idea that instead of bringing war to those nice neighborhoods, to try to make all neighborhoods better?
        seanw444 4y ago
        "Bringing war" is a misunderstanding of the point. It's to have the means to defend yourself if you become a victim. Not to initiate it.
        EForEndeavour 4y ago
        I don't want to come off as a troll, but I honestly believe that a person can do both those things at the same time: 1. Do what you can to make all neighbourhoods better. (Donate to or volunteer at local organizations working to improve neighbourhoods, get to know your neighbours, vote for positive change, join neighbourhood watch, etc.) 2. Do what you can to protect yourself until Step 1 comes to fruition. (Avoid high-risk areas, maintain situational awareness, train in self-defense, carry self-defense tools, etc.)
      - notch656c 4y ago

by jdlyga 4y ago

srndsnd 4y ago

I dunno. As the country bifurcates more and more, I'm thinking long and hard about if I want to travel to certain states. I'd rather as little of my money as possible be spent there.

throwaway5959 4y ago
Don’t worry, your federal tax dollars get routed to these states automatically.
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gadflyinyoureye 4y ago
I know how you feel. I refuse to go to Virginia since they don't accept my CCW permit from Florida.
- seanw444 4y ago
  I don't step in non-constitutional-carry states. The good thing is that, with the exception of basically Florida, there are no states I care to visit that don't already have it. The problem is traveling to those states. I'm temporarily a felon to get there, even though it is my right to keep and bear that handgun nationally. Beats me. I will not contribute my money to a government that does not allow me my rights, and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target just to temporarily sight-see. Not worth it. Plenty of pretty sights to see in the states that aren't ridiculous.
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    > and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target Are you the president of the United States? Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you openly a member of a gang or other criminal organization? If not, then, quite plainly, you're not a target. Period.
    - seanw444 4y ago
      Hmm. Watch Active Self Protection on YouTube, and tell me that again. You'd be surprised how often people get targeted for no reason / stupid reasons. Frankly, I find that the people that oppose guns and concealed carry are usually the type that live in nice neighborhoods and make nearly six figures, where the opinion is invalid. So, basically the demographic of Hacker News.
      - soco 4y ago
        How about this crazy idea that instead of bringing war to those nice neighborhoods, to try to make all neighborhoods better?
        seanw444 4y ago
        "Bringing war" is a misunderstanding of the point. It's to have the means to defend yourself if you become a victim. Not to initiate it.
        EForEndeavour 4y ago
        I don't want to come off as a troll, but I honestly believe that a person can do both those things at the same time: 1. Do what you can to make all neighbourhoods better. (Donate to or volunteer at local organizations working to improve neighbourhoods, get to know your neighbours, vote for positive change, join neighbourhood watch, etc.) 2. Do what you can to protect yourself until Step 1 comes to fruition. (Avoid high-risk areas, maintain situational awareness, train in self-defense, carry self-defense tools, etc.)
    - notch656c 4y ago