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One of the requirements for book approval: > Appropriate for the grade level and age group for which the materials are used or made available If I was in grad

One of the requirements for book approval: > Appropriate for the grade level and age group for which the materials are used or made available If I was in grade school when this happened, this would have hampered my ability to learn. I was generally reading above the standard level and loved reading in class. Reading this post just makes me sad. Kids aren't getting the same opportunities I got to nurture my curiosity.

agloeregrets 4y ago
Additionally, the content of the book has to pass rather insane content rules, including banning any description or implication of homosexuality. Wildly, they branded it as 'Parents rights' as in: "If I don't want my kid to read X...NOBODY's should". The outcome is an attempt to whitewash out topics that are inconvenient to the agenda at play to protect the agenda long term. $5 says it just makes teen pregnancy happen at higher rates btw.
- Floegipoky 4y ago
  > $5 says it just makes teen pregnancy happen at higher rates btw. This is a feature, not a bug.
- nerdponx 4y ago
  Banning books at the state level should result in revocation of any federal funding allocated for state schools.
  - EForEndeavour 4y ago
    I'm with you in principle, but I worry that this would result in defunding the schools which need the most help: those in the most extremist states willing to accept funding revocation in response to book bans.
    - nerdponx 4y ago
      Good point. The people imposing the book bans don't seem to care about education in the first place, and more likely than not they have some chip on their shoulder about big government anyway.
- ldh0011 4y ago
  According to the article > The law requires that all library books selected be: > 1. Free of pornography and material prohibited under s. 847.012. s. 847.012. includes... > (3) A person may not knowingly sell, rent, or loan for monetary consideration to a minor: > (b) Any book, pamphlet, magazine, printed matter however reproduced, or sound recording that *contains* any matter defined in s. 847.001, ... s. 847.001 includes numerous definitions (including a rather broad "Sexual content") many of which are devoid of exonerating literary context. I think the implication here is that many popular books like the ASOIAF series, many young adult books that I personally read in high school, and many important classics like 1984, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc. that I don't find at all age-inappropriate for a high schooler would all be banned from school libraries. Unless I'm having some grave misunderstanding here Florida has just made it a felony for a high school lit teacher to loan a student a copy of *1984*. This is absurd puritanical behavior that frankly this makes me frightened for the US.
  - froh 4y ago
    > ~puritanical~ fascist, neo-feudal FTFY
treeman79 4y ago
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- crooked-v 4y ago
  Which books would those be, exactly?
crooked-v 4y ago
In this case, it's not merely about taking it out on the smart kids, but rather part of a more general push to label anything that encourages gender nonconformity as 'inappropriate' (regardless of age level).
jterrys 4y ago
I 100% guarantee you that this has nothing to do with smart kids like you being unable to read big brain books but rather intentionally vague and loose language being used to curtail what the school administration and parents consider morally objectionable material.
- jackson1442 4y ago
  Unfortunately the linked article includes a screenshot of a parent stating that teachers have barred students from bringing their own books/eReaders out of fear for liability. That's the problem with policy that makes failure at a job function a crime. People will be overly cautious because they don't want to be charged with a felony.
  - crooked-v 4y ago
    That's not "unfortunate", that's part of the intended purpose. After all, if you let children share books they might let each other know that gay and transgender people exist.
- mikrotikker 4y ago
  I consider the "Gender Queer" book morally objectionable for children. Go read it and tell me you don't either.
  - InitialLastName 4y ago
    I consider parts of the Old Testament morally objectionable for children, but I'm willing to recognize the value other people see in it.
    - mikrotikker 4y ago
      Agree. Children should not be indoctrinated with religion either.
  - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
adamsmith143 4y ago
You probably got books from the library then or brought them from home. Which isn't affected by this law from what I can tell. I think I read a book from a "classroom library" like once during school while I was loaning books from our actual library non-stop. Wouldn't have affected me at all.
- jackson1442 4y ago
  The content requirement also applies to the school library, but content review for that will likely be prioritized above classroom libraries. As mentioned in a sibling thread, some teachers have blocked students from bringing in their own books out of fear of liability.

agloeregrets 4y ago

Additionally, the content of the book has to pass rather insane content rules, including banning any description or implication of homosexuality. Wildly, they branded it as 'Parents rights' as in: "If I don't want my kid to read X...NOBODY's should". The outcome is an attempt to whitewash out topics that are inconvenient to the agenda at play to protect the agenda long term. $5 says it just makes teen pregnancy happen at higher rates btw.

Floegipoky 4y ago
> $5 says it just makes teen pregnancy happen at higher rates btw. This is a feature, not a bug.
nerdponx 4y ago
Banning books at the state level should result in revocation of any federal funding allocated for state schools.
- EForEndeavour 4y ago
  I'm with you in principle, but I worry that this would result in defunding the schools which need the most help: those in the most extremist states willing to accept funding revocation in response to book bans.
  - nerdponx 4y ago
    Good point. The people imposing the book bans don't seem to care about education in the first place, and more likely than not they have some chip on their shoulder about big government anyway.
ldh0011 4y ago
According to the article > The law requires that all library books selected be: > 1. Free of pornography and material prohibited under s. 847.012. s. 847.012. includes... > (3) A person may not knowingly sell, rent, or loan for monetary consideration to a minor: > (b) Any book, pamphlet, magazine, printed matter however reproduced, or sound recording that *contains* any matter defined in s. 847.001, ... s. 847.001 includes numerous definitions (including a rather broad "Sexual content") many of which are devoid of exonerating literary context. I think the implication here is that many popular books like the ASOIAF series, many young adult books that I personally read in high school, and many important classics like 1984, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc. that I don't find at all age-inappropriate for a high schooler would all be banned from school libraries. Unless I'm having some grave misunderstanding here Florida has just made it a felony for a high school lit teacher to loan a student a copy of *1984*. This is absurd puritanical behavior that frankly this makes me frightened for the US.
- froh 4y ago
  > ~puritanical~ fascist, neo-feudal FTFY

treeman79 4y ago

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crooked-v 4y ago
Which books would those be, exactly?

crooked-v 4y ago

In this case, it's not merely about taking it out on the smart kids, but rather part of a more general push to label anything that encourages gender nonconformity as 'inappropriate' (regardless of age level).

jterrys 4y ago

I 100% guarantee you that this has nothing to do with smart kids like you being unable to read big brain books but rather intentionally vague and loose language being used to curtail what the school administration and parents consider morally objectionable material.

jackson1442 4y ago
Unfortunately the linked article includes a screenshot of a parent stating that teachers have barred students from bringing their own books/eReaders out of fear for liability. That's the problem with policy that makes failure at a job function a crime. People will be overly cautious because they don't want to be charged with a felony.
- crooked-v 4y ago
  That's not "unfortunate", that's part of the intended purpose. After all, if you let children share books they might let each other know that gay and transgender people exist.
mikrotikker 4y ago
I consider the "Gender Queer" book morally objectionable for children. Go read it and tell me you don't either.
- InitialLastName 4y ago
  I consider parts of the Old Testament morally objectionable for children, but I'm willing to recognize the value other people see in it.
  - mikrotikker 4y ago
    Agree. Children should not be indoctrinated with religion either.
- PuppyTailWags 4y ago

adamsmith143 4y ago

You probably got books from the library then or brought them from home. Which isn't affected by this law from what I can tell. I think I read a book from a "classroom library" like once during school while I was loaning books from our actual library non-stop. Wouldn't have affected me at all.

jackson1442 4y ago
The content requirement also applies to the school library, but content review for that will likely be prioritized above classroom libraries. As mentioned in a sibling thread, some teachers have blocked students from bringing in their own books out of fear of liability.