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These “terrible people” seem to have catapulted the world into a generative AI world. They genuinely believe they will build AGI and therefore becoming the wor

These “terrible people” seem to have catapulted the world into a generative AI world. They genuinely believe they will build AGI and therefore becoming the world’s most valuable company is a natural consequence. Whether this is possible/probable is a different story, but I think a capped profit structure makes logical sense for the company that is aiming to create AGI. Would you want this technology instead in the hands of a for profit company?

WastingMyTime89 4y ago
It is a for profit company in everything but name. That's my main complain. It has Musk, Thiel and Livingston amongst its initial investors, all known as the greatest philantropists of our time. /s I don't understand why they put this thin veneer on top of what they are doing. Maybe Thiel was burnt with the bad press surrounding Palantir and this is preventive damage control.
- awestroke 4y ago
  It's literally a nonprofit
  - eternalban 4y ago
    That means absolutely nothing to billionaire control freaks. If OpenAI's products become the next Googlie thing (and here I was worried about Cloudflare <smack head>) then these are the future influencers. This is society mainlined on TikTok levels of manipulation. Surely you have adapted to ChatGPT's requirements for interacting, have you not? There is a name for this: social engineering.
    - int_19h 4y ago
      The "chat" part of ChatGPT is the least of long-term concerns. This whole AI stuff is going to be the capital (as in means of production) that's going to take increasingly big role in the future in general, to the point where it may dominate everything else in terms of sheer value. And here we are, concentrating it from the get-go in megacorps that already dominate the market.
  - adastra22 4y ago
    No, it is profit-capped. And even then only on the same sense that the US government is debt-limited.
  - ivalm 4y ago
    It is not literally a non-profit. As far as legally recognized organizations it is a limited partnership with a now minority ownership held by a non-profit.
Der_Einzige 4y ago
Huggingface and maybe Stability catapulted us into that world. Not OpenAI
- ben_w 4y ago
  Normal people[0] don't mention huggingface, they talk about Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and ChatGPT by name, or the ideas generically. [0] Well, non-programmers at least: webcomic creators[1][2][3], news anchors[4], opinion piece columnist[5], and stand-up comedians[6]. Programmers also know about GitHub Copilot. [1] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mountweazel https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mountweazel [2] https://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=1226 https://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=1226 [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10bj8jm/class_action_lawsuit_filed_against_stable/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10bj8jm/cl... [4] https://youtu.be/GYeJC31JcM0 https://youtu.be/GYeJC31JcM0 [5] https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigGrannell/status/1614603526876893186?cxt=HHwWhMC4ic3WnOgsAAAA https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigGrannell/status/161460352687... [6] Russell Howard, but I can't find the clip on youtube

WastingMyTime89 4y ago

It is a for profit company in everything but name. That's my main complain. It has Musk, Thiel and Livingston amongst its initial investors, all known as the greatest philantropists of our time. /s I don't understand why they put this thin veneer on top of what they are doing. Maybe Thiel was burnt with the bad press surrounding Palantir and this is preventive damage control.

awestroke 4y ago
It's literally a nonprofit
- eternalban 4y ago
  That means absolutely nothing to billionaire control freaks. If OpenAI's products become the next Googlie thing (and here I was worried about Cloudflare <smack head>) then these are the future influencers. This is society mainlined on TikTok levels of manipulation. Surely you have adapted to ChatGPT's requirements for interacting, have you not? There is a name for this: social engineering.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    The "chat" part of ChatGPT is the least of long-term concerns. This whole AI stuff is going to be the capital (as in means of production) that's going to take increasingly big role in the future in general, to the point where it may dominate everything else in terms of sheer value. And here we are, concentrating it from the get-go in megacorps that already dominate the market.
- adastra22 4y ago
  No, it is profit-capped. And even then only on the same sense that the US government is debt-limited.
- ivalm 4y ago
  It is not literally a non-profit. As far as legally recognized organizations it is a limited partnership with a now minority ownership held by a non-profit.

Der_Einzige 4y ago

Huggingface and maybe Stability catapulted us into that world. Not OpenAI

ben_w 4y ago
Normal people[0] don't mention huggingface, they talk about Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and ChatGPT by name, or the ideas generically. [0] Well, non-programmers at least: webcomic creators[1][2][3], news anchors[4], opinion piece columnist[5], and stand-up comedians[6]. Programmers also know about GitHub Copilot. [1] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mountweazel https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mountweazel [2] https://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=1226 https://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=1226 [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10bj8jm/class_action_lawsuit_filed_against_stable/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10bj8jm/cl... [4] https://youtu.be/GYeJC31JcM0 https://youtu.be/GYeJC31JcM0 [5] https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigGrannell/status/1614603526876893186?cxt=HHwWhMC4ic3WnOgsAAAA https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigGrannell/status/161460352687... [6] Russell Howard, but I can't find the clip on youtube