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> for most use cases the practical need for desktop cpu performance plateaued 10 years ago This drives me insane, literally every day my computer spends minut

> for most use cases the practical need for desktop cpu performance plateaued 10 years ago This drives me insane, literally every day my computer spends minutes - likely hours in total in a day - blasting at 100% CPU and it's not a ten years old one. Hell, I got access to a threadripper 5990X and even that one I sometimes end up in situations where I have to wait for CPU operations to finish, even for basic life things such as uncompressing archives or editing pictures so I really cannot understand

MobiusHorizons 4y ago
Good for you, you actually use a workstation for its intended purpose. You would be surprised how rare that is.
projektfu 4y ago
High memory use will still peg a CPU at 100%. They don't get many opportunities to do other things while waiting for cache refills. Increasing core speed/single thread performance will not help much in memory-bound tasks.
- Accujack 4y ago
  Putting the memory dies on a substrate die alongside the CPU and GPU dies will, however.
dale_glass 4y ago
A lot of core functionality like dealing with zip files hasn't been updated for modern times, and doesn't support multiple cores. So it's likely you're using just one core to uncompress stuff.
metalspot 4y ago
sure, if you have a modern system with plenty of ram and ssd, then cpu will still be a bottleneck. what i am saying is that if given a choice of a brand new cpu with 8gb ram and a hard drive (common specs for 10 years ago) or a 10 year old cpu with 16gb ram and an ssd, then i would definitely take the 10 year old cpu. case in point, i recently bought this super cheap dell laptop, which has a really nice brand new cpu (i5-1135G7) but only 8gb ram and a crappy ssd. i will upgrade those things when i have the time, but right now if i am running too many things it will start swapping out, and that is far worse than maxing out the cpu.

MobiusHorizons 4y ago

Good for you, you actually use a workstation for its intended purpose. You would be surprised how rare that is.

projektfu 4y ago

High memory use will still peg a CPU at 100%. They don't get many opportunities to do other things while waiting for cache refills. Increasing core speed/single thread performance will not help much in memory-bound tasks.

Accujack 4y ago
Putting the memory dies on a substrate die alongside the CPU and GPU dies will, however.

dale_glass 4y ago

A lot of core functionality like dealing with zip files hasn't been updated for modern times, and doesn't support multiple cores. So it's likely you're using just one core to uncompress stuff.

metalspot 4y ago

sure, if you have a modern system with plenty of ram and ssd, then cpu will still be a bottleneck. what i am saying is that if given a choice of a brand new cpu with 8gb ram and a hard drive (common specs for 10 years ago) or a 10 year old cpu with 16gb ram and an ssd, then i would definitely take the 10 year old cpu. case in point, i recently bought this super cheap dell laptop, which has a really nice brand new cpu (i5-1135G7) but only 8gb ram and a crappy ssd. i will upgrade those things when i have the time, but right now if i am running too many things it will start swapping out, and that is far worse than maxing out the cpu.