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Yeah the current "remote" really really sucks and sounds like snake-oil. It also give wrong stat when reading online comments. Many people that said it's easy f

Yeah the current "remote" really really sucks and sounds like snake-oil. It also give wrong stat when reading online comments. Many people that said it's easy for them often came from people live in the same city and country as those companies. "Remote" by default gives an impression that's it's global.

k__ 4y ago
Why should remote mean global?
- officialchicken 4y ago
  "Know your customer" ... these are jobs on the internet, building the internet, for users on the internet. And because the internet is global.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > And because the internet is global Unfortunately, getting less and less true by the day. When I first used internet, it was truly global, anything someone else could access, I could as well. Nowadays, I'm finding more and more geoblocks everywhere. Sometimes I cannot access a website because apparently "a lot of internet criminals are also from the country you are accessing our website from, so you're collateral damage".
    - officialchicken 4y ago
      The geoblock is just an indicator that it's becoming more and more global, with more users. Who are the bad actors here? The "copyright lobby", the "scammers", or is it the vendors making and selling these draconian fencing tools?
      - capableweb 4y ago
        Blocking someone because of their geographical location would mean (to me) that it's becoming "more localized", not "more global". Before I could access websites everywhere, now I cannot.
- electroly 4y ago
  "Should" is a loaded word that I won't address, but commonly "work from home" is the term used when you're still located near the office, vs. "remote" which is where you're nowhere near an office.
  - k__ 4y ago
    I'd guess, many people wouldn't commute more than 1h to work every day. So, I'd say, "remote" is everything out of that range.
    - FeistySkink 4y ago
      I'd say remote is not needing to go to the office at all, outside of seldom teambuilding-like events. Everything else is WFH.
  - barbazoo 4y ago
    It's not about being close to the office. For many teams it's about being in similar timezones. Companies hiring along the NA west coast for instance is pretty common and makes sense if you want people to collaborate closely.
- Existenceblinks 4y ago
  Because that's been the sentiment. From the era it was popularized by Remote book (office not required), and then there's discussion around location adjusted salary (e.g. gitlab). As far as I know Basecamp still pays roughly same rates everywhere (location independent). Employer of Record like Deel.com or Remote.com exists for making global hire easier. I don't think I actually answer "why should" .. but that's not what I say anyway.
- oleg_antonyan 4y ago
  The same reason why some companies consider "US-only" to be remote
surge 4y ago
It's not snake oil, there's literally tax issues and legal problems with having employees located overseas. If you hire employees in another country, you have to pay taxes or comply with a slew of different regulations your company is not familiar with or equipped to handle.

k__ 4y ago

Why should remote mean global?

officialchicken 4y ago
"Know your customer" ... these are jobs on the internet, building the internet, for users on the internet. And because the internet is global.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > And because the internet is global Unfortunately, getting less and less true by the day. When I first used internet, it was truly global, anything someone else could access, I could as well. Nowadays, I'm finding more and more geoblocks everywhere. Sometimes I cannot access a website because apparently "a lot of internet criminals are also from the country you are accessing our website from, so you're collateral damage".
  - officialchicken 4y ago
    The geoblock is just an indicator that it's becoming more and more global, with more users. Who are the bad actors here? The "copyright lobby", the "scammers", or is it the vendors making and selling these draconian fencing tools?
    - capableweb 4y ago
      Blocking someone because of their geographical location would mean (to me) that it's becoming "more localized", not "more global". Before I could access websites everywhere, now I cannot.
electroly 4y ago
"Should" is a loaded word that I won't address, but commonly "work from home" is the term used when you're still located near the office, vs. "remote" which is where you're nowhere near an office.
- k__ 4y ago
  I'd guess, many people wouldn't commute more than 1h to work every day. So, I'd say, "remote" is everything out of that range.
  - FeistySkink 4y ago
    I'd say remote is not needing to go to the office at all, outside of seldom teambuilding-like events. Everything else is WFH.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  It's not about being close to the office. For many teams it's about being in similar timezones. Companies hiring along the NA west coast for instance is pretty common and makes sense if you want people to collaborate closely.
Existenceblinks 4y ago
Because that's been the sentiment. From the era it was popularized by Remote book (office not required), and then there's discussion around location adjusted salary (e.g. gitlab). As far as I know Basecamp still pays roughly same rates everywhere (location independent). Employer of Record like Deel.com or Remote.com exists for making global hire easier. I don't think I actually answer "why should" .. but that's not what I say anyway.
oleg_antonyan 4y ago
The same reason why some companies consider "US-only" to be remote

surge 4y ago

It's not snake oil, there's literally tax issues and legal problems with having employees located overseas. If you hire employees in another country, you have to pay taxes or comply with a slew of different regulations your company is not familiar with or equipped to handle.