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Not parent commenter, but what can be argued is that evolutions “rules” are way different to us then to any other animal (except the ones we closely handle ours
by kaba0 4y ago
Not parent commenter, but what can be argued is that evolutions “rules” are way different to us then to any other animal (except the ones we closely handle ourselves). E.g. healing people, far smaller infant death rates, no basically no food scarcity from natural causes, etc. Our selection process is societal, not “natural”.
- alserio 4y agoAre you implying that Cindy saying "ew" when I asked her out is not as much as natural as being mauled by a sabertooth tiger in my teens?
- GoblinSlayer 4y agoOur selection process looks pretty natural to me. Also we solved food scarcity, like, a century ago?
- kaba0 4y agoIs our weak culled by predators, or are we pressured towards some change (e.g. more efficient digestive track) due to food scarcity? Those would be some natural selection processes, and they don’t apply to us in any significant way since.. I would say the agricultural revolution at least, but maybe even sooner (the very reason we can “feed” such a hungry organ as our brains is due to our efficiency at hunting/processing food even back then thanks to tools/fire)
- int_19h 4y agoAnything that has some effect on the number of children one has, and their probability to survive until they can have their own children, would be a natural selection process. Nobody actually has to die, or even to remain childless.
- smt88 4y ago> Our selection process is societal, not “natural” That's culture, not evolution. It's absolutely natural (in every sense of the word) and there are biological components. Outside of that, though, there is also physical natural selection that occurs. Human "hardware" is evolving along with the "software".
- kaba0 4y agoThat argument will quickly devolve into just https://xkcd.com/435/ https://xkcd.com/435/ , though. But the point is, evolution is not a “thing”, it is an observation explained by selection pressures, an emergent property if you will. The characteristics/statistics for people are way different than any other wild animal, so I think it is fair to attribute that to society vs nature.