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Then you think that Section 230 should be repealed. The whole goddamned point is to not have a chilling effect for moderation.

_8j50 4y ago
If you are not putting in best effort to moderate harmful (not merely undesirable but someone is being harmed) content then by all means chill away. Key word is best effort with the resources you have. So a one guy operated forum has to restrict user registration to a volume that person can manage. Moderation is the way you avoid liability. Spam or dmca would be out of scope for example and a flag button is sufficient for reporting harmful content. The driver in a robbery-murder gets charged equally with murder because he was part of a criminal act knowingly. Merely facilitating content delivery is being the driver,so the moment you know a crime is being committed or someone harmed you have a choice to stop participating and report the offense or keep doing what you are doing and become a co-conspirator.
WeylandYutani 4y ago
Capitalism enforces moderation even if American law does not. Reddit knows that advertisers don't want to be associated with racism or hate crimes.
- _8j50 4y ago
  That's not true and misleading. Capitalism promotes removal of unprofitable content. If your audience is the general public moderation will fit that, if it is people who are into something undesriable and unpopular it will follow suit. A person can be harmed and that harm can be popular and profitable even for sites like reddit or HN even. The law protects the one innocent or wronged person first before the masses. For example, it may be popular and I will agree with saying "the only good nazi is a dead nazi" however in the eyes of the law, if Nazis felt actual threat and suffered trauma let them sue me in court and if HN did not take down my content after it was flagged (no obligation to proactively monitor) then YC gets sued also. There is a nice real place between utopia and dystopia.

_8j50 4y ago

If you are not putting in best effort to moderate harmful (not merely undesirable but someone is being harmed) content then by all means chill away. Key word is best effort with the resources you have. So a one guy operated forum has to restrict user registration to a volume that person can manage. Moderation is the way you avoid liability. Spam or dmca would be out of scope for example and a flag button is sufficient for reporting harmful content. The driver in a robbery-murder gets charged equally with murder because he was part of a criminal act knowingly. Merely facilitating content delivery is being the driver,so the moment you know a crime is being committed or someone harmed you have a choice to stop participating and report the offense or keep doing what you are doing and become a co-conspirator.

WeylandYutani 4y ago

Capitalism enforces moderation even if American law does not. Reddit knows that advertisers don't want to be associated with racism or hate crimes.

_8j50 4y ago
That's not true and misleading. Capitalism promotes removal of unprofitable content. If your audience is the general public moderation will fit that, if it is people who are into something undesriable and unpopular it will follow suit. A person can be harmed and that harm can be popular and profitable even for sites like reddit or HN even. The law protects the one innocent or wronged person first before the masses. For example, it may be popular and I will agree with saying "the only good nazi is a dead nazi" however in the eyes of the law, if Nazis felt actual threat and suffered trauma let them sue me in court and if HN did not take down my content after it was flagged (no obligation to proactively monitor) then YC gets sued also. There is a nice real place between utopia and dystopia.