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> There is a striking difference in how mortality rates in 2022 compare to 2019 at different ages – ranging from 2.5% higher for ages 75-84 to 7.8% higher for a

by eddsh1994 4y ago

> There is a striking difference in how mortality rates in 2022 compare to 2019 at different ages – ranging from 2.5% higher for ages 75-84 to 7.8% higher for ages 20-44. You quoted the wrong part.

cma 4y ago
75-84 year olds are more vaccinated ("88.9% of eligible adult care home residents" are vaccinated), and many with vulnerable conditions were already killed off earlier than otherwise by covid. If we can get those other 11.1% to chose the vax, maybe we can get those elderly excess numbers closer to 2019. Suicide is the leading cause of death under 45: brexit's negative impact on the economy and the 2022 war crash might be part of the story there, but I'm not sure if that was where the increase was. If we could have had everyone lock down just 1.5 weeks earlier on the initial wave and then done everything the same we could have prevented large amounts of covid's human and economic impact and made it to vaccine land without as much damage.
- hammock 4y ago
  >Suicide is the leading cause of death under 45 What’s your source? Data I’ve seen says that’s not the case anymore. It’s overdose: the leading cause for people ages 18-45 would be unintentional drug overdose due to synthetic opioids. That number would exceed the second highest leading cause of death (suicide in 2020 and COVID-19 in 2021.) Source: CDC https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/10/02/fact-check-fentanyl-leading-cause-of-death-among-adults/65417990007/ https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/202...
  - jackvalentine 4y ago
    The article is about the UK, not the U.S.
    - hammock 4y ago
      Is there a source for the UK then? In the UK in 2021 there were 84.4 overdose deaths per million compared to 105 suicides per million that’s across all age groups. Not sure what the 18-45 demo looks like but it would be much closer, if not flipped
- ed25519FUUU 4y ago
  Nothing is free. Locking people down earlier or for longer could easily cause more excess death for young people.
  - ben_w 4y ago
    Earlier lockdown would've meant shorter lockdown. There are always trade-offs, but sometimes there are also synergies.

> There is a striking difference in how mortality rates in 2022 compare to 2019 at different ages – ranging from 2.5% higher for ages 75-84 to 7.8% higher for ages 20-44. You quoted the wrong part.

cma 4y ago

75-84 year olds are more vaccinated ("88.9% of eligible adult care home residents" are vaccinated), and many with vulnerable conditions were already killed off earlier than otherwise by covid. If we can get those other 11.1% to chose the vax, maybe we can get those elderly excess numbers closer to 2019. Suicide is the leading cause of death under 45: brexit's negative impact on the economy and the 2022 war crash might be part of the story there, but I'm not sure if that was where the increase was. If we could have had everyone lock down just 1.5 weeks earlier on the initial wave and then done everything the same we could have prevented large amounts of covid's human and economic impact and made it to vaccine land without as much damage.

hammock 4y ago
>Suicide is the leading cause of death under 45 What’s your source? Data I’ve seen says that’s not the case anymore. It’s overdose: the leading cause for people ages 18-45 would be unintentional drug overdose due to synthetic opioids. That number would exceed the second highest leading cause of death (suicide in 2020 and COVID-19 in 2021.) Source: CDC https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/10/02/fact-check-fentanyl-leading-cause-of-death-among-adults/65417990007/ https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/202...
- jackvalentine 4y ago
  The article is about the UK, not the U.S.
  - hammock 4y ago
    Is there a source for the UK then? In the UK in 2021 there were 84.4 overdose deaths per million compared to 105 suicides per million that’s across all age groups. Not sure what the 18-45 demo looks like but it would be much closer, if not flipped
ed25519FUUU 4y ago
Nothing is free. Locking people down earlier or for longer could easily cause more excess death for young people.
- ben_w 4y ago
  Earlier lockdown would've meant shorter lockdown. There are always trade-offs, but sometimes there are also synergies.