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> For me the biggest mystery is how and when did language progress because this is what allowed a group of humans to effectively operate as a pseudo single orga
by unity1001 4y ago
> For me the biggest mystery is how and when did language progress because this is what allowed a group of humans to effectively operate as a pseudo single organism
Language evolves very early in species. Pigs are known to have ~150 words. And the 'dialects' differ from herd to herd. The words probably start from the expression of or reaction to natural states, desires, situations and motives, and then develop in complexity as the species evolve and its activities become more varied.
We also see primates and chimpanzees act in certain, superstitious ways - throwing things into a certain cave/hole in certain days of a season, arranging objects in certain ways without any utility being present etc. These are thought to be the predecessors of religious beliefs that evolve in later stages of the evolution of a species.
At this point its important to note that species learn from each other as well - some orangutans in some regions apparently have learned how to fish using spears by watching humans, and they are now doing it themselves.
This would mean many primate species likely have learned from each other and exchanged many things, concluding that the evolution of human species was not something that is clear-cut, neat and certain like how the late 19th century science told it in a way that is uncomfortably too close to the Christian dogmatism and certainty.
Its more likely that different species of primates including human ancestors have been using tools, fire and different technologies and practices by learning them from each other by seeing or through actual interaction/coexisting, and the spread of technolog was not instant like how its being implied in our existing perspective. Instead even among the same species of human ancestors its likely that different groups had differing levels of tool use, language use and other practices, whereas other groups have either did not adopt those, were slow to adopt those or outright could have rejected those.
So great variety in the levels of technology among the human ancestors' societies should have been possible. And many more things, really, because our perspective of human history still has not broken out of the late 19th century mold...
- joak 4y agoInteresting... Do you have refs for that?
- mcswell 4y ago"Pigs are known to have ~150 words": Citation needed. I very much doubt that pigs have any words, in the sense that words are known in human languages (repeatable, pretty much the same from human to human in any given language group, discrete, not to mention usable in sentences).
- unity1001 4y agoI didn't bookmark that specific reference, but there are many other investigations that approach the topic in different ways and end up with the same result. https://genv.org/pigs-intelligent-human-smart/ https://genv.org/pigs-intelligent-human-smart/ https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/scientists-use-algorithm-to-figure-out-what-pigs-are-saying/ https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/scientists-use-algorithm-to-fi...