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But even the ethical question is straight forward. LLM definitely don’t suffer, and we are happy “shutting off” a dog which both can suffer and has some greate
by onethought 4y ago
But even the ethical question is straight forward.
LLM definitely don’t suffer, and we are happy “shutting off” a dog which both can suffer and has some greater level of consciousness. So, yes, it’s fine to shut off LLMs
- ben_w 4y agoSociety may be happy doing that to a dog, I am not. Nor am I happy doing that to animals which are turned into dog meat. Contradictions abound with more than a superficial glance on many moral topics, in part due to our lack of any of omniscience, omnipotence, nor omnibenevolence.
- onethought 4y agoBut we aren’t talking about you. We are talking about us, society. And it’s unequivocal.
- ben_w 4y agoSociety is made up of individuals. 200 years ago, some societies were fine with slavery. Enough individuals rejected it and society changed. What you say only works insofar as "ethics" means only the rules of your society and not any person or group; this would also reject the "E" from PETA, the USA declaration of independence, and the Suffragettes.
- onethought 4y agoOkay. So we kill and keep dolphins captive. We eat octopus. We run experiments on monkeys. This happens globally. For 1000s of years. There is no global or even local movement to stop treating conscious animals any better… which is exactly my point, AI in its current state is less than that. So until we as a society want to tackle consciousness animals I don’t think we will tackle consciousness in AI