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The reality of the situation has not caused me any discomfort. I remain unconvinced that the two phrases are descriptions of the same thing.

• Retric 4y ago
  Both phrases where used to describe the same situation. So they quite literally where describing the same thing.
  • mcculley 4y ago
    The two phrases were used by two different commenters. I questioned that one was equal to the other. I still do.
    • Retric 4y ago
      Do you honestly think they aren’t both describing the job situation in Japan as it applies to women from the poster’s perspective? Because I can only assume you’re playing pretend at this point.
      • mcculley 4y ago
        I take offense at your assumption. I have sincerely written what I think. You have implied that you can read my mind and that I am "uncomfortable" or "playing pretend". User SoylentOrange wrote that his wife "found her job opportunities and career growth severely limited by the heavily patriarchal culture." That seems a very believable assertion to me, given what I have read about Japanese culture and seen in many industries outside of tech in Western cultures. User lozenge rephrased that as, "treating half the population as undeserving of a career". I have no idea if lozenge has any experience with Japanese culture. I read his statement as a summary of what SoylentOrange wrote. I remain unconvinced that the median Japanese man thinks that women are undeserving of a career. I welcome those with first hand experience to share more than anecdotes to convince me. To be accused of "playing pretend" when questioning hyperbole makes me reconsider commenting on HN at all.