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Yeah, it's actually one of the last sentences in the New Testament - Revelations 22:18. Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone, but the Abraham

Yeah, it's actually one of the last sentences in the New Testament - Revelations 22:18. Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone, but the Abrahamic god is not a particularly forgiving one.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
IDK. Jesus supposedly also plans to be the one to decides who to cast into everlasting flames or eternal paradise.
bitbang 4y ago
You have no clue what you're talking about. Jesus spoke more regarding the topic of hell than everybody else in the bible _combined_.
- 3836293648 4y ago
  Of course he did, hell is a Christian concept that isn't accepted by modern Judaism and was a divisive topic during ancient Judaism
krapp 4y ago
What's interesting about that is it's obviously only referring to the book of Revelations itself, since "The Bible" as such didn't even exist at the time, if it isn't a late addition. Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole. Also, IIRC, Revelations almost didn't even make it into the Biblical canon, like a lot of other apocryphal books it was considered too crazy for the mainstream.
- bazoom42 4y ago
  The Bible did exist, just not the section called the new testament.
  - krapp 4y ago
    "The Bible" is a Christian invention. What existed was the Torah and other Hebrew texts, whose incorporation into Christian canon is based on retroactive continuity, and has never been recognized as valid within Judaism.
    - bazoom42 4y ago
      AFAIK Bible is from Greek and was used by Greek speaking Jews to refer to their sacred books.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole. I mean. some do, but, that’s hardly the only position. http://actsapologist.blogspot.com/2016/05/how-does-catholic-read-revelation-2218.html http://actsapologist.blogspot.com/2016/05/how-does-catholic-...
bazoom42 4y ago
> Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone Jesus introduced the fire and brimstones. The old testament does not really have the concept of hell or eternal punishment.

paulryanrogers 4y ago

IDK. Jesus supposedly also plans to be the one to decides who to cast into everlasting flames or eternal paradise.

bitbang 4y ago

You have no clue what you're talking about. Jesus spoke more regarding the topic of hell than everybody else in the bible _combined_.

3836293648 4y ago
Of course he did, hell is a Christian concept that isn't accepted by modern Judaism and was a divisive topic during ancient Judaism

krapp 4y ago

What's interesting about that is it's obviously only referring to the book of Revelations itself, since "The Bible" as such didn't even exist at the time, if it isn't a late addition. Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole. Also, IIRC, Revelations almost didn't even make it into the Biblical canon, like a lot of other apocryphal books it was considered too crazy for the mainstream.

bazoom42 4y ago
The Bible did exist, just not the section called the new testament.
- krapp 4y ago
  "The Bible" is a Christian invention. What existed was the Torah and other Hebrew texts, whose incorporation into Christian canon is based on retroactive continuity, and has never been recognized as valid within Judaism.
  - bazoom42 4y ago
    AFAIK Bible is from Greek and was used by Greek speaking Jews to refer to their sacred books.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Yet Christians apply it to scripture as a whole. I mean. some do, but, that’s hardly the only position. http://actsapologist.blogspot.com/2016/05/how-does-catholic-read-revelation-2218.html http://actsapologist.blogspot.com/2016/05/how-does-catholic-...

bazoom42 4y ago

> Jesus did his best to tone down the fire and brimstone Jesus introduced the fire and brimstones. The old testament does not really have the concept of hell or eternal punishment.