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Daimler reps already given their answer to trolley problem. - "Car safety systems will give priority to save people inside machine, and save outside only if thi

by simne 4y ago

Daimler reps already given their answer to trolley problem. - "Car safety systems will give priority to save people inside machine, and save outside only if this will not affect inside safety".

simne 4y ago
I have not seen comparable statements from other vendors.
ghaff 4y ago
Which seems like the right answer in general. In most imminent accident scenarios the optimum solution is probably going to be to apply brakes with maximum force. Once you get into calculating odds for complex scenarios involving lane departures, etc., there's a good chance you'll just make things worse. That and the fact that no one is buying a car from a manufacturer that is optimizing outcomes for people who don't own the car. The one time in my life I've ended up doing a high speed swerve (onto the shoulder) to avoid a collision, the only reason I had to do so was some clown who wasn't paying attention ended up swerving to avoid the car they were about to rear-end. Somewhat miraculously for all the vehicles threatening to play pinball at 65 miles per hour, no one actually collided.
- simne 4y ago
  Agree. But must say, this is complex problem, not just car safety systems involved. - Standard current EU practice, they constantly analyze incidents statistics, and looking for places, with much worse statistics than middle, and trying to make some changes, to make those places safer. For example, in EU normal practice, to rebuild shape of road intersection, so there will not exist blind zones, where you don't see vehicles, approaching from other directions. Other example, they trying to make road transparent, so you will see far, when appear transport congestion, and you have more time to slow down.
wolverine876 4y ago
Do you happen to have a source? I'd like to see more context.
- simne 4y ago
  This is not exact source, where I've read statement, but looks like reprinted from same source. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mercedes-will-prioritize-occupant-safety-over-pedestrians/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer...

by simne 4y ago

Daimler reps already given their answer to trolley problem. - "Car safety systems will give priority to save people inside machine, and save outside only if this will not affect inside safety".

simne 4y ago

I have not seen comparable statements from other vendors.

ghaff 4y ago

Which seems like the right answer in general. In most imminent accident scenarios the optimum solution is probably going to be to apply brakes with maximum force. Once you get into calculating odds for complex scenarios involving lane departures, etc., there's a good chance you'll just make things worse. That and the fact that no one is buying a car from a manufacturer that is optimizing outcomes for people who don't own the car. The one time in my life I've ended up doing a high speed swerve (onto the shoulder) to avoid a collision, the only reason I had to do so was some clown who wasn't paying attention ended up swerving to avoid the car they were about to rear-end. Somewhat miraculously for all the vehicles threatening to play pinball at 65 miles per hour, no one actually collided.

simne 4y ago
Agree. But must say, this is complex problem, not just car safety systems involved. - Standard current EU practice, they constantly analyze incidents statistics, and looking for places, with much worse statistics than middle, and trying to make some changes, to make those places safer. For example, in EU normal practice, to rebuild shape of road intersection, so there will not exist blind zones, where you don't see vehicles, approaching from other directions. Other example, they trying to make road transparent, so you will see far, when appear transport congestion, and you have more time to slow down.

wolverine876 4y ago

Do you happen to have a source? I'd like to see more context.

simne 4y ago
This is not exact source, where I've read statement, but looks like reprinted from same source. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mercedes-will-prioritize-occupant-safety-over-pedestrians/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer...