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Stopping for 20 minutes every two hours is collossally ridiculously stupendously untennable overhead. You have to think in terms of fillups per hour or per min

Stopping for 20 minutes every two hours is collossally ridiculously stupendously untennable overhead. You have to think in terms of fillups per hour or per minute that a standard gas station can process. If every one of those 1, 2, 5 minute fillups now takes 30 minutes to several hours, that translates into gas stations having to be parking lots and parking garages that can hold hundreds of cars, and a doubling or tripling in travel expenses and travel time. A million trips now need whole extra days and associated hotel stays and meals and generate a million extra junk boredom purchases at rest stops just because what else are you going do while waiting around for the charger? Anf this is all in the mythical world where high speed charging stations actually exist in all the places where gas stations currently exist, and all actually work at full speed, and your car is allowed to use any of them. That world is not even close to existing, and doesn't do the job even if it did.

dzhiurgis 4y ago
> gas stations having to be parking lots and parking garages that can hold hundreds of cars So like bucees?
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  Yes, except somehow crammed into every other street corner in every place that isn't Texas.
  - Schroedingersat 4y ago
    You've somehow stumbled onto the answer whilst thinking it's a problem. It's not that petrol stations will become car parks, car parks will become petrol stations. Chargers are not overly expensive, and very little driving consists of 500km road trips. Unlike petrol stations they require very little dedicated infrastructure and don't stink. The overwhelming majority of charging will happen over a regular 20-40A circuit in the places the car parks anyway. Truck stops will get a little larger, but will be competing with every cafe, tourist shop, and shopping mall on the route to get people to stop and charge there instead. The people that don't want to stop for a coffee will be able to use a 750kW fast charger which will take no longer than a petrol bowser.
    - Brian_K_White 4y ago
      I think you're right.
  - dzhiurgis 4y ago
    Fast charging is mostly needed in highways, not cities
Schroedingersat 4y ago
That was for the specific subset of cars towing a heavy load. A new passenger EV designed for range only has to stop for 20 minutes every 6 hours and this is dropping quickly. The lack of standards is also a purely US thing. The rest of the world has some sanity.

dzhiurgis 4y ago

> gas stations having to be parking lots and parking garages that can hold hundreds of cars So like bucees?

Brian_K_White 4y ago
Yes, except somehow crammed into every other street corner in every place that isn't Texas.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  You've somehow stumbled onto the answer whilst thinking it's a problem. It's not that petrol stations will become car parks, car parks will become petrol stations. Chargers are not overly expensive, and very little driving consists of 500km road trips. Unlike petrol stations they require very little dedicated infrastructure and don't stink. The overwhelming majority of charging will happen over a regular 20-40A circuit in the places the car parks anyway. Truck stops will get a little larger, but will be competing with every cafe, tourist shop, and shopping mall on the route to get people to stop and charge there instead. The people that don't want to stop for a coffee will be able to use a 750kW fast charger which will take no longer than a petrol bowser.
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    I think you're right.
- dzhiurgis 4y ago
  Fast charging is mostly needed in highways, not cities

Schroedingersat 4y ago

That was for the specific subset of cars towing a heavy load. A new passenger EV designed for range only has to stop for 20 minutes every 6 hours and this is dropping quickly. The lack of standards is also a purely US thing. The rest of the world has some sanity.