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Sorry to be off topic, but are most people here on HN as unhappy about Davos and the World Economic Forum as I am? I really dislike their "Young Leaders" progra

Sorry to be off topic, but are most people here on HN as unhappy about Davos and the World Economic Forum as I am? I really dislike their "Young Leaders" program, going back decades (lots of US politicians, Canada's Prime Minister, etc. have been indoctrinated). I am very happy to see Davos getting bad rap right now from independent bloggers and independent (small) news outlets. This helps push back against corporate owned media which pushes a positive slant on one world government, "in 20 years you will own nothing and be very happy", etc.

GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
There's short street interviews(or rather attempts) of WEF participants, booming on Twitter from Rebel News. To be fair, questions asked by interviewers are often just provocative, still, arrogance in behavior of, specifically, CEOs is just overwhelming.
mikymoothrowa 4y ago
Here’s how I think about it: Davos is a religious gathering. You wouldn’t be happy/unhappy about other religious gatherings that you don’t participate in. The elites really don’t have any control or vision over what’s going to happen, just like shamans and religious leaders of the past did not
- ErikVandeWater 4y ago
  How do 52 heads of state and 600+ CEOs of the world's largest companies not have "any control or vision of what's going to happen?"
  - GalenErso 4y ago
    Because the WEF is not controlled by 52 heads of state of 600+ CEOs. It's controlled by Klaus Schwab, a managing board and an executive committee: https://www.weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance https://www.weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance 10 people sit on the managing board, none of them household names: Børge Brende, Mirek Dušek, Julien Gattoni, Jeremy Jurgens, Adrian Monck, Sarita Nayyar, Gim Huay Neo, Olivier M. Schwab, Saadia Zahidi, and Alois Zwinggi.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      I don't think he meant control of how the WEF operates but of the world economy.
- cplusplusfellow 4y ago
  > elites really don’t have any control or vision over what’s going to happen, Is this satire, blindness, or just youthful optimism?
potatototoo99 4y ago
I think it's abhorrent how supposedly democratic countries don't see an issue with a private event just for politicians and international corporations.
- sameEvrWuz 4y ago
  Information shaping has resulted in most not even knowing Davos exists.
  - machina_ex_deus 4y ago
    I heard the new matrix doesn't try to hide, it's in your face gaslighting you and demoralizing you every time you observe it. Who needs to conspire secretly when you can do it publicly, and then turn around and say it's not a conspiracy since it's out in the open?
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Then it's not a conspiracy.
  - formerly_proven 4y ago
    WEF/Davos is extensively reported on in mainstream media. And you can watch the talks and panels on their own YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@wef/videos https://www.youtube.com/@wef/videos
    - cjbgkagh 4y ago
      It’s the more exclusive private parties where the real influence is wielded. Like convincing Japan to give Negative Interest Rate Policies a go as an experiment to see if it would work for the rest of us.
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katamarimambo 4y ago
I like Davos and the WEF. Most people against them these days are far-right nutjobs and some don't even know they are becoming like that. Populism is a hell of a drug.
- GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
  Can you elaborate, what specifically do you like about WEF?
  - katamarimambo 4y ago
    It's basically the powerful people's version of an academic symposium. I watched a lot of panels last week on youtube and the discussions were informed, interesting and very down to earth in regards to real problems and plausible solutions (not utopic, naïve, or extremist ones). Collaboration between governments, states and business, etc. Stuff that actually have a chance to achieve something. In particular I felt they were on point about the Amazon and the reception the new Environment Minister of Brazil, Marina Silva, a person I absolutely trust about this matter at least, was a great signal the WEF is an org I can trust, even if I disagree with some guests (natural since it's politics and I don't want it all to be in line with what I want).
    - cycrutchfield 4y ago
      Clearly you must’ve missed the panel about secretly controlling the world, it was in between the one on vampiric bloodsucking and the one on mind control via mass media. It’s truly disappointing how much the HN crowd skews towards conspiracy theorists these days. This place is becoming a cesspool for informed discussion.
- netsharc 4y ago
  To be fair there's also a lot of leftists who protest WEF, G7/8/20, etc. There is also left populism... There's a lot of merit to face to face meetings - if you could have a date over FaceTime or in real life, which would you prefer? - and of course it's only the elite/influential people who are invited, they're the ones with the power to change things. Whether or not they're capable of fixing the world or if their hands are somewhat tied because of politics or shareholder motivations, is a different question. For some populism: I do think most politicians/elites care more about their career/wallet rather than the world.
__derek__ 4y ago
Davos is officially sanctioned corruption for oligarchs, but the organization is also apparently a cult of personality that may not survive Klaus Schwab, so maybe it will just go away.[1] [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erupts-among-wef-staff-over-role-of-mr-davos-klaus-schwab https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erup...
- cjbgkagh 4y ago
  I’m sure Henry Kissinger has other people lined up to take on that roll. The technique of using exclusive events to socialize and indoctrinate people is age-old.
  - Tade0 4y ago
    Will he outlive Schwab, though?
    - cjbgkagh 4y ago
      At those ages it's a bit of a crap-shoot. Depends on who has access to the better adrenochrome (j/k)... I'm not sure if he needs to personally anoint the successor. It just surprises me that people don't realize that it's WEF is a continuations of a very old power structures that predates it.
cycrutchfield 4y ago
“Sorry to hijack this discussion thread with irrelevant flamebait”
themitigating 4y ago
What corporate owned media pushes the concept of a one world government. I've never heard that concept mentioned on the news
kgwxd 4y ago
It feels like I'm watching a real life Villain-Con.

GrigoriyMikh 4y ago

There's short street interviews(or rather attempts) of WEF participants, booming on Twitter from Rebel News. To be fair, questions asked by interviewers are often just provocative, still, arrogance in behavior of, specifically, CEOs is just overwhelming.

mikymoothrowa 4y ago

Here’s how I think about it: Davos is a religious gathering. You wouldn’t be happy/unhappy about other religious gatherings that you don’t participate in. The elites really don’t have any control or vision over what’s going to happen, just like shamans and religious leaders of the past did not

ErikVandeWater 4y ago
How do 52 heads of state and 600+ CEOs of the world's largest companies not have "any control or vision of what's going to happen?"
- GalenErso 4y ago
  Because the WEF is not controlled by 52 heads of state of 600+ CEOs. It's controlled by Klaus Schwab, a managing board and an executive committee: https://www.weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance https://www.weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance 10 people sit on the managing board, none of them household names: Børge Brende, Mirek Dušek, Julien Gattoni, Jeremy Jurgens, Adrian Monck, Sarita Nayyar, Gim Huay Neo, Olivier M. Schwab, Saadia Zahidi, and Alois Zwinggi.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    I don't think he meant control of how the WEF operates but of the world economy.
cplusplusfellow 4y ago
> elites really don’t have any control or vision over what’s going to happen, Is this satire, blindness, or just youthful optimism?

potatototoo99 4y ago

I think it's abhorrent how supposedly democratic countries don't see an issue with a private event just for politicians and international corporations.

sameEvrWuz 4y ago
Information shaping has resulted in most not even knowing Davos exists.
- machina_ex_deus 4y ago
  I heard the new matrix doesn't try to hide, it's in your face gaslighting you and demoralizing you every time you observe it. Who needs to conspire secretly when you can do it publicly, and then turn around and say it's not a conspiracy since it's out in the open?
  - themitigating 4y ago
    Then it's not a conspiracy.
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  WEF/Davos is extensively reported on in mainstream media. And you can watch the talks and panels on their own YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@wef/videos https://www.youtube.com/@wef/videos
  - cjbgkagh 4y ago
    It’s the more exclusive private parties where the real influence is wielded. Like convincing Japan to give Negative Interest Rate Policies a go as an experiment to see if it would work for the rest of us.
- emptyfile 4y ago
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katamarimambo 4y ago

I like Davos and the WEF. Most people against them these days are far-right nutjobs and some don't even know they are becoming like that. Populism is a hell of a drug.

GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
Can you elaborate, what specifically do you like about WEF?
- katamarimambo 4y ago
  It's basically the powerful people's version of an academic symposium. I watched a lot of panels last week on youtube and the discussions were informed, interesting and very down to earth in regards to real problems and plausible solutions (not utopic, naïve, or extremist ones). Collaboration between governments, states and business, etc. Stuff that actually have a chance to achieve something. In particular I felt they were on point about the Amazon and the reception the new Environment Minister of Brazil, Marina Silva, a person I absolutely trust about this matter at least, was a great signal the WEF is an org I can trust, even if I disagree with some guests (natural since it's politics and I don't want it all to be in line with what I want).
  - cycrutchfield 4y ago
    Clearly you must’ve missed the panel about secretly controlling the world, it was in between the one on vampiric bloodsucking and the one on mind control via mass media. It’s truly disappointing how much the HN crowd skews towards conspiracy theorists these days. This place is becoming a cesspool for informed discussion.
netsharc 4y ago
To be fair there's also a lot of leftists who protest WEF, G7/8/20, etc. There is also left populism... There's a lot of merit to face to face meetings - if you could have a date over FaceTime or in real life, which would you prefer? - and of course it's only the elite/influential people who are invited, they're the ones with the power to change things. Whether or not they're capable of fixing the world or if their hands are somewhat tied because of politics or shareholder motivations, is a different question. For some populism: I do think most politicians/elites care more about their career/wallet rather than the world.

__derek__ 4y ago

Davos is officially sanctioned corruption for oligarchs, but the organization is also apparently a cult of personality that may not survive Klaus Schwab, so maybe it will just go away.[1] [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erupts-among-wef-staff-over-role-of-mr-davos-klaus-schwab https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erup...

cjbgkagh 4y ago
I’m sure Henry Kissinger has other people lined up to take on that roll. The technique of using exclusive events to socialize and indoctrinate people is age-old.
- Tade0 4y ago
  Will he outlive Schwab, though?
  - cjbgkagh 4y ago
    At those ages it's a bit of a crap-shoot. Depends on who has access to the better adrenochrome (j/k)... I'm not sure if he needs to personally anoint the successor. It just surprises me that people don't realize that it's WEF is a continuations of a very old power structures that predates it.

cycrutchfield 4y ago

“Sorry to hijack this discussion thread with irrelevant flamebait”

themitigating 4y ago

What corporate owned media pushes the concept of a one world government. I've never heard that concept mentioned on the news

kgwxd 4y ago

It feels like I'm watching a real life Villain-Con.