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I think Judaism and Islam have more in common with each other than with Christianity. Christianity's belief in the divinity of Jesus is shared by neither other

I think Judaism and Islam have more in common with each other than with Christianity. Christianity's belief in the divinity of Jesus is shared by neither other religion. The Jewish jurist Maimonides ruled that Christians were idol worshipers because of their belief in the trinity and Muslims were not (Menachem Meiri rules otherwise). But more than that, in terms of practice, Muslims and Jews share a great deal. Praying in a certain direction. Praying several times a day. Specific dietary requirements, including banning pork. And Jewish and Islamic thinkers were in constant dialogue, I'm not sure why anyone could say there's no philosophical continuity.

User23 4y ago
> Muslims and Jews share a great deal. Praying in a certain direction. Praying several times a day. Specific dietary requirements, including banning pork. Christian churches face the East. Christian clerics and devout laypersons pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily. Finally many Christians observe religious dietary requirements involving fasting and abstinence from meat.
- verbify 4y ago
  > Christian churches face the East I should have been more specific, it's about praying to a specific place. Jews face the western wall in Jerusalem, Muslims face Mecca. And they do this in or out of the synagogue (or mosque as far as I know). I've seen people get out a compass! > Christian clerics and devout laypersons pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily. This might be more analogous, but the "devout laypeople" seems less analogous, as it's got the status of a commandment in Judaism and Islam. > Finally many Christians observe religious dietary requirements involving fasting and abstinence from meat. In this Christianity really differs from Judaism and Islam. I'm talking about ritual slaughter and avoiding eating specific animals, not general periods of abstinence from meat. All in all obviously Judaism and Christianity share a lot too, I'm just suspicious of the claim that they shares more with each other than Islam when my experience is not like that at all.
  - llimos 4y ago
    > Jews face the western wall in Jerusalem Close, but a few metres out - we face the place where the Holy of Holies was, on the Temple Mount.
    - verbify 4y ago
      Heh, I considered writing that, but decided against it because I figured the western wall would be more familiar to the audience on HN even if it's a few metres out.
- selfhoster11 4y ago
  Protestant here. Church is understood to be the congregation, not a building. Whichever building the congregation chooses to gather in, is what becomes the "church" building. That building doesn't have to face in any particular direction to be a valid site of worship. I don't have to follow Liturgy of the Hours as a devout Christian, even though prayer in general is encouraged. While we fast, abstinence from meat seems to be more of a Catholic practice.

User23 4y ago

> Muslims and Jews share a great deal. Praying in a certain direction. Praying several times a day. Specific dietary requirements, including banning pork. Christian churches face the East. Christian clerics and devout laypersons pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily. Finally many Christians observe religious dietary requirements involving fasting and abstinence from meat.

verbify 4y ago
> Christian churches face the East I should have been more specific, it's about praying to a specific place. Jews face the western wall in Jerusalem, Muslims face Mecca. And they do this in or out of the synagogue (or mosque as far as I know). I've seen people get out a compass! > Christian clerics and devout laypersons pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily. This might be more analogous, but the "devout laypeople" seems less analogous, as it's got the status of a commandment in Judaism and Islam. > Finally many Christians observe religious dietary requirements involving fasting and abstinence from meat. In this Christianity really differs from Judaism and Islam. I'm talking about ritual slaughter and avoiding eating specific animals, not general periods of abstinence from meat. All in all obviously Judaism and Christianity share a lot too, I'm just suspicious of the claim that they shares more with each other than Islam when my experience is not like that at all.
- llimos 4y ago
  > Jews face the western wall in Jerusalem Close, but a few metres out - we face the place where the Holy of Holies was, on the Temple Mount.
  - verbify 4y ago
    Heh, I considered writing that, but decided against it because I figured the western wall would be more familiar to the audience on HN even if it's a few metres out.
selfhoster11 4y ago
Protestant here. Church is understood to be the congregation, not a building. Whichever building the congregation chooses to gather in, is what becomes the "church" building. That building doesn't have to face in any particular direction to be a valid site of worship. I don't have to follow Liturgy of the Hours as a devout Christian, even though prayer in general is encouraged. While we fast, abstinence from meat seems to be more of a Catholic practice.