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Very possibly, the FBI has some strong leads, and are building a case. This is something on the national scale with lots of federal internal attention - report

Very possibly, the FBI has some strong leads, and are building a case. This is something on the national scale with lots of federal internal attention - reports likely even having hit the potus desk. I doubt we’ll hear much about this again unless there’s an arrest.

plsksosl 4y ago
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- hgsgm 4y ago
  What do you mean? Law enforcement doesn't comment on details of an investigation except when asking for help finding suspects. If they have suspects they have to investigate quietly until they have enough evidence for an arrest.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  Criminal conspiracy is a real sort of thing that actually happens. There's nothing wrong with speculating about such circumstances. If anything, I think hypothesizing that it was a lone wolf attack is more zany, given similar attacks being carried out in other areas.
  - AmericanChopper 4y ago
    Real conspiracies of all different types happen all the time. A conspiracy is just two or more people secretly doing something together. Any speculation about two or more people doing anything is a conspiracy theory. It would typically have to be “something bad”, but that’s really a matter of perspective.
    - swores 4y ago
      Just to be pedantic, I disagree that: > "Any speculation about two or more people doing anything is a conspiracy theory." If I see two people known to be in a relationship (but who haven't talked to me about sex) and say to my friend "I bet they love sex!" then it's a theory about those two people sure, but there's no suggestion that those two people have a conspiracy to hide the existence of their sex, they just haven't told me about it. Or going a step further than a "taboo" subject, speculating about which supermarket the two people I see carrying a loaf of bread have just been to. (But you do make a good point reminding that a conspiracy is just a normal secret thing, not some crazy government-level only type of terminology.)
      - AmericanChopper 4y ago
        If you want to be super pedantic then my description is perfectly in line with the definition of a secret, which can by definition be anything that is unknown, and you would only speculate about things that are unknown. Your example seems silly because we could culturally have the expectation that that is happening, even if it’s unsaid. But if you were to change the cultural context to say, somewhere that would be illegal, then it wouldn’t seem silly to describe that as a conspiracy at all. However my point is that conspiracies are very common place, and a majority of the discussion/commentary about them would by definition be conspiracy theories. Stating this should really only be a casually observing a simple fact, but unfortunately it’s quite a controversial statement to make, because dismissing something as a conspiracy theory has become a mainstream technique for discrediting an idea/argument/person… without engaging with it on any level.
        swores 4y ago
        > "However my point is" Yeah I completely agree with you (and hoped my last paragraph would show that I wasn't disagreeing with the substance of your previous comment). But back on the pedantic side... bringing in the definition of 'secret' isn't relavent because we weren't using that word - 'conspiracy' doesn't mean "a secret exists", it means "two or more people are plotting to keep something secret", it needs intent. You don't know what my friend and I just ate for lunch, so you could argue that's a secret, but if you asked what I ate then I'd not have a problem telling you, because it's not a conspiracy. And nor is illegality needed, though I think most definitions or 'conspiracy' do include it being something that people could consider being negative in some way; I'm not sure planning a surprise birthday party could ever be classed as a 'conspiracy' (except tongue-in-cheek).

plsksosl 4y ago

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hgsgm 4y ago
What do you mean? Law enforcement doesn't comment on details of an investigation except when asking for help finding suspects. If they have suspects they have to investigate quietly until they have enough evidence for an arrest.
LarryMullins 4y ago
Criminal conspiracy is a real sort of thing that actually happens. There's nothing wrong with speculating about such circumstances. If anything, I think hypothesizing that it was a lone wolf attack is more zany, given similar attacks being carried out in other areas.
- AmericanChopper 4y ago
  Real conspiracies of all different types happen all the time. A conspiracy is just two or more people secretly doing something together. Any speculation about two or more people doing anything is a conspiracy theory. It would typically have to be “something bad”, but that’s really a matter of perspective.
  - swores 4y ago
    Just to be pedantic, I disagree that: > "Any speculation about two or more people doing anything is a conspiracy theory." If I see two people known to be in a relationship (but who haven't talked to me about sex) and say to my friend "I bet they love sex!" then it's a theory about those two people sure, but there's no suggestion that those two people have a conspiracy to hide the existence of their sex, they just haven't told me about it. Or going a step further than a "taboo" subject, speculating about which supermarket the two people I see carrying a loaf of bread have just been to. (But you do make a good point reminding that a conspiracy is just a normal secret thing, not some crazy government-level only type of terminology.)
    - AmericanChopper 4y ago
      If you want to be super pedantic then my description is perfectly in line with the definition of a secret, which can by definition be anything that is unknown, and you would only speculate about things that are unknown. Your example seems silly because we could culturally have the expectation that that is happening, even if it’s unsaid. But if you were to change the cultural context to say, somewhere that would be illegal, then it wouldn’t seem silly to describe that as a conspiracy at all. However my point is that conspiracies are very common place, and a majority of the discussion/commentary about them would by definition be conspiracy theories. Stating this should really only be a casually observing a simple fact, but unfortunately it’s quite a controversial statement to make, because dismissing something as a conspiracy theory has become a mainstream technique for discrediting an idea/argument/person… without engaging with it on any level.
      - swores 4y ago
        > "However my point is" Yeah I completely agree with you (and hoped my last paragraph would show that I wasn't disagreeing with the substance of your previous comment). But back on the pedantic side... bringing in the definition of 'secret' isn't relavent because we weren't using that word - 'conspiracy' doesn't mean "a secret exists", it means "two or more people are plotting to keep something secret", it needs intent. You don't know what my friend and I just ate for lunch, so you could argue that's a secret, but if you asked what I ate then I'd not have a problem telling you, because it's not a conspiracy. And nor is illegality needed, though I think most definitions or 'conspiracy' do include it being something that people could consider being negative in some way; I'm not sure planning a surprise birthday party could ever be classed as a 'conspiracy' (except tongue-in-cheek).