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That doesn't mean you need to suffer. Reality is harsh. Cutting out toxicity is required.

rahoulb 4y ago
Agreed. My friend was stabbed by a schizophrenic who lived in the flat opposite and believed that my friend was stalking him. Ten years later and my friend still has virtually no feeling in his hand as the nerves did not grow back correctly and he had to give up being a professional musician. I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions.
- serf 4y ago
  >I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions. ok, but aside from a time-machine and time-cops, what do we do? We 'compartmentalize' the ill out of our lives -- they don't just disappear, they roam the streets and poorly interact with societies .. -OR- certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society. which one results in less violent crimes towards regular citizens? It should be obvious to anyone with their eyes open that someone has to interact with these people to provide rehabilitation and growing potential for people in need.
  - rahoulb 4y ago
    > certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society. That was literally my dad’s job. In the UK in the 80s they implemented a policy called “care in the community” which was about ensuring that people with serious mental health issues were not institutionalised. For the most part this was a good thing but my dad actually made the decisions over the care and freedom they would receive. Eventually he quit because he felt too many dangerous people were being released - and in the end worked at Rampton, which is a prison hospital, looking after serial killers.

Agreed. My friend was stabbed by a schizophrenic who lived in the flat opposite and believed that my friend was stalking him. Ten years later and my friend still has virtually no feeling in his hand as the nerves did not grow back correctly and he had to give up being a professional musician. I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions.

serf 4y ago
>I know the guy didn't choose to be the way he was and I'm sure what was going through his mind was hell. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just live with the consequences of harmful actions. ok, but aside from a time-machine and time-cops, what do we do? We 'compartmentalize' the ill out of our lives -- they don't just disappear, they roam the streets and poorly interact with societies .. -OR- certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society. which one results in less violent crimes towards regular citizens? It should be obvious to anyone with their eyes open that someone has to interact with these people to provide rehabilitation and growing potential for people in need.
- rahoulb 4y ago
  > certain professionals sacrifice aspects of their lives in order to facilitate treatment and professional isolation for such individuals in an effort to keep them off the street and out of interactions with regular society. That was literally my dad’s job. In the UK in the 80s they implemented a policy called “care in the community” which was about ensuring that people with serious mental health issues were not institutionalised. For the most part this was a good thing but my dad actually made the decisions over the care and freedom they would receive. Eventually he quit because he felt too many dangerous people were being released - and in the end worked at Rampton, which is a prison hospital, looking after serial killers.