Also I believe the HN culture of "be nice" is being discounted here. As part of that culture most on HN are generally more polite, than much of the rest of the

Also I believe the HN culture of "be nice" is being discounted here. As part of that culture most on HN are generally more polite, than much of the rest of the wild wild web. It can not be excluded from the discussion or else it becomes the elephant in the room.