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That's whether or not the parents agree.

MoSattler 4y ago
Parents are not really asked, though. Parent's consent is assumed, unless they explicitly opt their children out. > Parents can put their children on the “no paddle list”—a practice encouraged by a school in Kentucky if the child “bruises easy”, suffers from severe depression or has been physically abused—but amid the back-to-school chaos many forget to submit the necessary form.
- akira2501 4y ago
  > or has been physically abused Literally adding insult to injury and completely seeing through their own policy in one line item. "Let us know if your child has been abused before so we don't accidentally abuse them again."
- theGnuMe 4y ago
  Sounds like a Federal civil rights violation. Someone should sue.
- themitigating 4y ago
  I didn't know that list existed and was initially happy that there was an opt out but then list or reasons parents should consider putting their child on the list just added another point to how much I hate Republicans
fzeroracer 4y ago
> In 2020 Kiory Baugh, then an ace 2nd grader in Grenada, Mississippi, was paddled by her principal even though she was on the no-paddle list. When Kiory came home from school she was in so much pain she could not sit down. The school told Julia, her mother, there was no need to take her to the hospital. Julia took her to the emergency room anyway, where the doctor told her he would have called the police if she had been hit outside of school. She missed seven days of classes to recover. After Julia complained to the district, Kiory’s teacher failed her. That summer Julia moved the family to Arkansas, where corporal punishment is less common. Alternately, even if you are on a 'no-paddle' (wtf) list, your kid can still be badly abused by the school district with no recourse.
- patrickmay 4y ago
  Speaking as a father, there would be recourse.
  - braingravy 4y ago
    True, you could move away. That would be after a stranger inflicts physical trauma upon your child, however. Might be best to avoid that altogether?
    - kurthr 4y ago
      I'm not sure you (or perhaps even the parent comment?) quite realize what "recourse" by a father would mean in Mississippi. I read that as, shooting the principal dead and possibly turning yourself in to the police. If you're white, you'll probably get off with jail time. If you're dark skinned or non-christian probably suicide by cop to avoid the unpleasant (in)justice. It's about protecting other children and making future principals think twice. The US is a large country with highly variable laws and customs. Just as parts of Europe refer to other parts of Europe as 'North Africa'... when you say Florida or Missippi in the US it has a similar twang.
      - braingravy 4y ago
        I think you’re right, that’s what the parent comment was referring to. That seemed patently ridiculous, so I made a joke about how the recourse would be moving away. Might be better to just make it illegal to hit children?
      - jessaustin 4y ago
        Murder would be an overreaction to physical abuse. More appropriate would be to catch the perpetrator alone and beat the piss out of him.

Parents are not really asked, though. Parent's consent is assumed, unless they explicitly opt their children out. > Parents can put their children on the “no paddle list”—a practice encouraged by a school in Kentucky if the child “bruises easy”, suffers from severe depression or has been physically abused—but amid the back-to-school chaos many forget to submit the necessary form.

akira2501 4y ago
> or has been physically abused Literally adding insult to injury and completely seeing through their own policy in one line item. "Let us know if your child has been abused before so we don't accidentally abuse them again."
theGnuMe 4y ago
Sounds like a Federal civil rights violation. Someone should sue.
themitigating 4y ago
I didn't know that list existed and was initially happy that there was an opt out but then list or reasons parents should consider putting their child on the list just added another point to how much I hate Republicans

fzeroracer 4y ago

> In 2020 Kiory Baugh, then an ace 2nd grader in Grenada, Mississippi, was paddled by her principal even though she was on the no-paddle list. When Kiory came home from school she was in so much pain she could not sit down. The school told Julia, her mother, there was no need to take her to the hospital. Julia took her to the emergency room anyway, where the doctor told her he would have called the police if she had been hit outside of school. She missed seven days of classes to recover. After Julia complained to the district, Kiory’s teacher failed her. That summer Julia moved the family to Arkansas, where corporal punishment is less common. Alternately, even if you are on a 'no-paddle' (wtf) list, your kid can still be badly abused by the school district with no recourse.

patrickmay 4y ago
Speaking as a father, there would be recourse.
- braingravy 4y ago
  True, you could move away. That would be after a stranger inflicts physical trauma upon your child, however. Might be best to avoid that altogether?
  - kurthr 4y ago
    I'm not sure you (or perhaps even the parent comment?) quite realize what "recourse" by a father would mean in Mississippi. I read that as, shooting the principal dead and possibly turning yourself in to the police. If you're white, you'll probably get off with jail time. If you're dark skinned or non-christian probably suicide by cop to avoid the unpleasant (in)justice. It's about protecting other children and making future principals think twice. The US is a large country with highly variable laws and customs. Just as parts of Europe refer to other parts of Europe as 'North Africa'... when you say Florida or Missippi in the US it has a similar twang.
    - braingravy 4y ago
      I think you’re right, that’s what the parent comment was referring to. That seemed patently ridiculous, so I made a joke about how the recourse would be moving away. Might be better to just make it illegal to hit children?
    - jessaustin 4y ago
      Murder would be an overreaction to physical abuse. More appropriate would be to catch the perpetrator alone and beat the piss out of him.