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To start doing that, a driver needs situational awareness. Getting that takes time. If you truly believe it's fully self driving, you think you can afford to lo

To start doing that, a driver needs situational awareness. Getting that takes time. If you truly believe it's fully self driving, you think you can afford to look away and loose that awareness. This gap between 'sometimes needs attention' and 'never needs attention' is hard to bridge and very dangerous, obviously

hbarka 4y ago
I’ve seen the video. This driver had Autopilot on and experienced “phantom braking”. If you drive a Tesla you’ll have experienced phantom braking at some point, a false positive condition when the Autopilot cameras thinks there’s a wall up ahead, for example if going under an overpass. It will literally brake. You step on the accelerator and cuss once or twice at Elon and you’re good to move on. This Bay Bridge driver could not make a decision and let the car brake to a stop. It’s not uncommon. Anecdotally I would say Teslas get rear-ended quite often.
- n0tth3dro1ds 4y ago
  >“If you drive a Tesla you’ll have experienced phantom braking at some point, a false positive condition when the Autopilot cameras thinks there’s a wall up ahead, for example if going under an overpass. It will literally brake. You step on the accelerator and cuss once or twice at Elon and you’re good to move on. This Bay Bridge driver could not make a decision and let the car brake to a stop. It’s not uncommon. Anecdotally I would say Teslas get rear-ended quite often.” This level of apologism is shocking. “Everyone knows Teslas emergency brake to a stop in the middle of highway traffic randomly, bro. Just gotta be ready for it! No biggie!” Yikes. Ever considered rental cars? Borrowing a friend’s car that you’re not familiar? Or just 100+ years of automotive history in which random no-input braking was considered completely unacceptable and not even a thing?
  - hbarka 4y ago
    Hey you’re misquoting me. I’m no Tesla apologist actually looking to get rid of it but this is the way you live with Autopilot. I’m done with Musk and his hypocrisy. All I’m saying is that everyone and their neighbor now drive Teslas but don’t have a mechanical sense for what lane keeping assist is.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  You're not making a good case for Tesla. Maybe the best thing to do is to not buy a Tesla in the first place.

hbarka 4y ago

I’ve seen the video. This driver had Autopilot on and experienced “phantom braking”. If you drive a Tesla you’ll have experienced phantom braking at some point, a false positive condition when the Autopilot cameras thinks there’s a wall up ahead, for example if going under an overpass. It will literally brake. You step on the accelerator and cuss once or twice at Elon and you’re good to move on. This Bay Bridge driver could not make a decision and let the car brake to a stop. It’s not uncommon. Anecdotally I would say Teslas get rear-ended quite often.

n0tth3dro1ds 4y ago
>“If you drive a Tesla you’ll have experienced phantom braking at some point, a false positive condition when the Autopilot cameras thinks there’s a wall up ahead, for example if going under an overpass. It will literally brake. You step on the accelerator and cuss once or twice at Elon and you’re good to move on. This Bay Bridge driver could not make a decision and let the car brake to a stop. It’s not uncommon. Anecdotally I would say Teslas get rear-ended quite often.” This level of apologism is shocking. “Everyone knows Teslas emergency brake to a stop in the middle of highway traffic randomly, bro. Just gotta be ready for it! No biggie!” Yikes. Ever considered rental cars? Borrowing a friend’s car that you’re not familiar? Or just 100+ years of automotive history in which random no-input braking was considered completely unacceptable and not even a thing?
- hbarka 4y ago
  Hey you’re misquoting me. I’m no Tesla apologist actually looking to get rid of it but this is the way you live with Autopilot. I’m done with Musk and his hypocrisy. All I’m saying is that everyone and their neighbor now drive Teslas but don’t have a mechanical sense for what lane keeping assist is.
clouddrover 4y ago
You're not making a good case for Tesla. Maybe the best thing to do is to not buy a Tesla in the first place.