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Better than the Confederacy my cherry picking cliche replyguy.

harvey9 4y ago
Can someone clarify this chain for me? Keeping a gun to defend your home against the government is probably futile because the government always has more weapons and more fighters than you. The other three cases were all wars - an apples to oranges comparison.
- maxwell 4y ago
  You think members of the U.S. military would side with the government and execute orders against American citizens on American soil?
  - lrvick 4y ago
    They are trained to do anything they are told. Anything. Remember the Chinese military had no problem mowing down protestors if their bosses give the order. That said, it is easier and safer to defend yourself from a government in modern society with information and free uncensored communication than with guns.
    - garbagecoder 4y ago
      >They are trained to do anything they are told. Anything. Yeah, you've never been in the military and appear to have a knowledge based on memes of it. Read the officer's oath and see what we're trained to do.
    - maxwell 4y ago
      What sources are you citing here? You seem to be completely off-base. No, in the United States, the military and all federal employees explicitly swear an oath to the Constitution, and are forbidden from executing illegal orders, regardless of the chain of command. Yeah, PLA goons in Communist China certainly do things differently. In the United States, the people are the government. Where are you?
      - lrvick 4y ago
        All the members of the NSA swore an oath to the constitution but what they actually followed were the orders of those cutting their paychecks to spy on the American public. Also note all the leaked footage of our military gleefully mowing down children and keeping score. They are never prosecuted for war crimes either. Just part of the job. That is how humans work everywhere. The US is not special.
  - harvey9 4y ago
    No. But the police and FBI have fighters (I should have used the term agents in my first post, and I am using it to mean anyone exercising force on behalf of the govt).
    - maxwell 4y ago
      Don't police officers and all federal employees take an oath to the U.S. Constitution?

Can someone clarify this chain for me? Keeping a gun to defend your home against the government is probably futile because the government always has more weapons and more fighters than you. The other three cases were all wars - an apples to oranges comparison.

maxwell 4y ago
You think members of the U.S. military would side with the government and execute orders against American citizens on American soil?
- lrvick 4y ago
  They are trained to do anything they are told. Anything. Remember the Chinese military had no problem mowing down protestors if their bosses give the order. That said, it is easier and safer to defend yourself from a government in modern society with information and free uncensored communication than with guns.
  - garbagecoder 4y ago
    >They are trained to do anything they are told. Anything. Yeah, you've never been in the military and appear to have a knowledge based on memes of it. Read the officer's oath and see what we're trained to do.
  - maxwell 4y ago
    What sources are you citing here? You seem to be completely off-base. No, in the United States, the military and all federal employees explicitly swear an oath to the Constitution, and are forbidden from executing illegal orders, regardless of the chain of command. Yeah, PLA goons in Communist China certainly do things differently. In the United States, the people are the government. Where are you?
    - lrvick 4y ago
      All the members of the NSA swore an oath to the constitution but what they actually followed were the orders of those cutting their paychecks to spy on the American public. Also note all the leaked footage of our military gleefully mowing down children and keeping score. They are never prosecuted for war crimes either. Just part of the job. That is how humans work everywhere. The US is not special.
- harvey9 4y ago
  No. But the police and FBI have fighters (I should have used the term agents in my first post, and I am using it to mean anyone exercising force on behalf of the govt).
  - maxwell 4y ago
    Don't police officers and all federal employees take an oath to the U.S. Constitution?