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Elon Musk Shares Personal Experience with Serious Vaccine Side Effects

10 points by sfusato 4y ago

spacedcowboy 4y ago
Poor guy. Had a bad reaction to something that could save his life. Just like the poors - that's not supposed to happen... The more he opens his mouth, the less I think of him. And I liked Tesla, and PayPal ... Musk, though. Jeez.
- sfusato 4y ago
  He mentions he had Covid before the vaccines came out. Are we still pretending Natural Immunity < Vaccine induced immunity? > I had OG C19 before vaccines came out and it was basically a mild cold. > Then had J&J vaccine with no bad effects, except my arm hurt briefly. > First mRNA booster was ok, but the second one crushed me. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616705517614923777 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616705517614923777
  - moistly 4y ago
    I hate the stupidity of this bullshit. Of course catching sars-cov-2 is going to provide a broader profile against which your immune system can develop matches: the vaccine only has the spike, while the virus has the spike plus other key proteins and signals. No shit Sherlock! BUT AT THE SAME TIME the virus is orders of magnitude more dangerous. The only people playing pretend are the ones who keep FUDing about the vaccine.
    - sfusato 4y ago
      Remember when we were assured that the vaccine’s spike protein would remain mostly in the injection site at the shoulder muscle or local lymph nodes? And only for a very limited period of time? This was by the experts.
      - moistly 4y ago
        Still, it’s much worse to catch the virus, especially before training one’s immune system through vaccination.
        sfusato 4y ago
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      - Rapzid 4y ago
        Nope, never heard that.
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- gusestrella 4y ago
  Could not agree more. Sad to realize what a clown this guy is
- zozbot234 4y ago
  It wasn't even a bad reaction. He says he felt quite sick for a few days, which is expected since the whole point of a vaccine is to promote an immune response and that's also the part that makes you feel sick when you catch a real infectious disease. Sensible people will know this of course, and it's clearly stated by reliable sources. Is Musk just trolling at this point? That whole tweet reads like trolling. (He also mention a relative who had an actual side effect of concern, namely myocarditis. That looks more legit at first glance, but guess what's a common side effect of COVID19 itself? That's right. The balance of benefits vs. risks is overwelmingly on the side of vaccine, at least if COVID19 remains endemic as it's expected to.)
Zigurd 4y ago
He takes no responsibility for the idiots who will die because "Elon said his arm hurt." If the damage were limited to only those idiots I'd say go for it. But those idiots will infect innocent sensible people.
clouddrover 4y ago
Well, there's some more brand damage for Tesla. That's the problem with encouraging a cult of personality as your primary method of advertising. The weak point is always going to be the personality.
timonoko 4y ago
Latest unofficial statistics from Infinlandia. 10000 vaccine damages. 5 vaccine deaths for young, prominently sporty males. 500 real covid deaths. 5000 dead "with covid". 3 covid deaths for people under 50. 0 (zero) covid deaths for non-obese healthy people under 50. Addendum: There is now 3000 annual "mystery deaths" more. Experts of Twitter disagree if this because of unpopularity of the 4th booster, or because of popularity (90%) of shots 1-3.
rsynnott 4y ago
"Serious"? I mean, he doesn't give any sort of proper description, but flu-like symptoms for a day or so are not uncommon.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  And are much, much better than the alternative, from personal experience. (I got hit hard before the vaccines were available.)

10 points by sfusato 4y ago

Poor guy. Had a bad reaction to something that could save his life. Just like the poors - that's not supposed to happen... The more he opens his mouth, the less I think of him. And I liked Tesla, and PayPal ... Musk, though. Jeez.

sfusato 4y ago
He mentions he had Covid before the vaccines came out. Are we still pretending Natural Immunity < Vaccine induced immunity? > I had OG C19 before vaccines came out and it was basically a mild cold. > Then had J&J vaccine with no bad effects, except my arm hurt briefly. > First mRNA booster was ok, but the second one crushed me. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616705517614923777 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616705517614923777
- moistly 4y ago
  I hate the stupidity of this bullshit. Of course catching sars-cov-2 is going to provide a broader profile against which your immune system can develop matches: the vaccine only has the spike, while the virus has the spike plus other key proteins and signals. No shit Sherlock! BUT AT THE SAME TIME the virus is orders of magnitude more dangerous. The only people playing pretend are the ones who keep FUDing about the vaccine.
  - sfusato 4y ago
    Remember when we were assured that the vaccine’s spike protein would remain mostly in the injection site at the shoulder muscle or local lymph nodes? And only for a very limited period of time? This was by the experts.
    - moistly 4y ago
      Still, it’s much worse to catch the virus, especially before training one’s immune system through vaccination.
      - sfusato 4y ago
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    - Rapzid 4y ago
      Nope, never heard that.
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gusestrella 4y ago
Could not agree more. Sad to realize what a clown this guy is
zozbot234 4y ago
It wasn't even a bad reaction. He says he felt quite sick for a few days, which is expected since the whole point of a vaccine is to promote an immune response and that's also the part that makes you feel sick when you catch a real infectious disease. Sensible people will know this of course, and it's clearly stated by reliable sources. Is Musk just trolling at this point? That whole tweet reads like trolling. (He also mention a relative who had an actual side effect of concern, namely myocarditis. That looks more legit at first glance, but guess what's a common side effect of COVID19 itself? That's right. The balance of benefits vs. risks is overwelmingly on the side of vaccine, at least if COVID19 remains endemic as it's expected to.)

Zigurd 4y ago

He takes no responsibility for the idiots who will die because "Elon said his arm hurt." If the damage were limited to only those idiots I'd say go for it. But those idiots will infect innocent sensible people.

clouddrover 4y ago

Well, there's some more brand damage for Tesla. That's the problem with encouraging a cult of personality as your primary method of advertising. The weak point is always going to be the personality.

timonoko 4y ago

Latest unofficial statistics from Infinlandia. 10000 vaccine damages. 5 vaccine deaths for young, prominently sporty males. 500 real covid deaths. 5000 dead "with covid". 3 covid deaths for people under 50. 0 (zero) covid deaths for non-obese healthy people under 50. Addendum: There is now 3000 annual "mystery deaths" more. Experts of Twitter disagree if this because of unpopularity of the 4th booster, or because of popularity (90%) of shots 1-3.

rsynnott 4y ago

"Serious"? I mean, he doesn't give any sort of proper description, but flu-like symptoms for a day or so are not uncommon.

jacquesm 4y ago
And are much, much better than the alternative, from personal experience. (I got hit hard before the vaccines were available.)