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You don't have public libraries in the U.S.? In my country, it's government-mandated job of public libraries to collect historical media.

by js8 4y ago

xeromal 4y ago
We do have that. It's the library of congress that ensures the safety of culturally important media in the US. And of course we have public libraries with all kinds of good media. I don't think the comment your replying to is even talking about public libraries. I believe they're saying if society determines a person is cancelled and it's on a streaming service, it can instantly disappear from most streaming media.
- wyre 4y ago
  I don’t think it’s about individuals getting canceled. It’s about how the streaming service has carte blanche power to decide the material on the service, regardless of what society wants.
  - js8 4y ago
    My point was this. Maybe they have that carte blanche power. Isn't a good public library system (where the work is also accessible) a good enough counterweight to that power?
    - lrvick 4y ago
      An original streaming-only movie or tv show will never be on a DVD at a library. I would say it is almost an -service- to society to continue to torrent content that has been edited or purged by major platforms.
      - franga2000 4y ago
        This is something that could and should be fixed with legislation
rolenthedeep 4y ago
Our public libraries are underfunded and used as a punching bag by conservatives. Libraries have very limited shelf space and must constantly prune items from the collection. If a movie isn't checked out for a few months, it gets sold for like 50 cents and replaced with whatever is currently in demand. Most public libraries don't have the resources to archive materials. That's mostly down to academic and specialist libraries, and the library of congress.
- convolvatron 4y ago
  does LOC archive content that was never put on a physical format?
  - rolenthedeep 4y ago
    Yes. I don't know a whole lot about their system, but I do know they tried to keep an archive of all public Twitter posts for a long time
    - chimeracoder 4y ago
      > I do know they tried to keep an archive of all public Twitter posts for a long time That was the result of a specific deal Twitter made early on (itself a marketing stunt, of sorts). It doesn't mean the Library of Congress is generally in the business of archiving DRM-ed media on streaming services.
- yucky 4y ago
  The US has by far the largest public library system in the world, and it's not close. So by what metric would you consider it underfunded?
  - cnelsenmilt 4y ago
    What measure are you using for "largest"? The US is 3rd in the world by population and 1st by GDP, so in absolute terms it's to be expected that they would be "large" in many categories, simply by having more people and money. (And then there's geographical extent.) The relative (per capita, perhaps) measure is more salient.

You don't have public libraries in the U.S.? In my country, it's government-mandated job of public libraries to collect historical media.

by js8 4y ago

You don't have public libraries in the U.S.? In my country, it's government-mandated job of public libraries to collect historical media.

xeromal 4y ago

We do have that. It's the library of congress that ensures the safety of culturally important media in the US. And of course we have public libraries with all kinds of good media. I don't think the comment your replying to is even talking about public libraries. I believe they're saying if society determines a person is cancelled and it's on a streaming service, it can instantly disappear from most streaming media.

wyre 4y ago
I don’t think it’s about individuals getting canceled. It’s about how the streaming service has carte blanche power to decide the material on the service, regardless of what society wants.
- js8 4y ago
  My point was this. Maybe they have that carte blanche power. Isn't a good public library system (where the work is also accessible) a good enough counterweight to that power?
  - lrvick 4y ago
    An original streaming-only movie or tv show will never be on a DVD at a library. I would say it is almost an -service- to society to continue to torrent content that has been edited or purged by major platforms.
    - franga2000 4y ago
      This is something that could and should be fixed with legislation

rolenthedeep 4y ago

Our public libraries are underfunded and used as a punching bag by conservatives. Libraries have very limited shelf space and must constantly prune items from the collection. If a movie isn't checked out for a few months, it gets sold for like 50 cents and replaced with whatever is currently in demand. Most public libraries don't have the resources to archive materials. That's mostly down to academic and specialist libraries, and the library of congress.

convolvatron 4y ago
does LOC archive content that was never put on a physical format?
- rolenthedeep 4y ago
  Yes. I don't know a whole lot about their system, but I do know they tried to keep an archive of all public Twitter posts for a long time
  - chimeracoder 4y ago
    > I do know they tried to keep an archive of all public Twitter posts for a long time That was the result of a specific deal Twitter made early on (itself a marketing stunt, of sorts). It doesn't mean the Library of Congress is generally in the business of archiving DRM-ed media on streaming services.
yucky 4y ago
The US has by far the largest public library system in the world, and it's not close. So by what metric would you consider it underfunded?
- cnelsenmilt 4y ago
  What measure are you using for "largest"? The US is 3rd in the world by population and 1st by GDP, so in absolute terms it's to be expected that they would be "large" in many categories, simply by having more people and money. (And then there's geographical extent.) The relative (per capita, perhaps) measure is more salient.