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Which makes the fact they seem so flat-footed by ChatGPT seem so insane. They invented or partially invented all this crap. I think they were afraid this tech

by cowmix 4y ago

Which makes the fact they seem so flat-footed by ChatGPT seem so insane. They invented or partially invented all this crap. I think they were afraid this tech would cannibalize their existing offerings and wanted to slow-roll things. Now they're sorta f'd.

xiphias2 4y ago
It is cannibalizing their existing offerings. I am already using ChatGPT instead of Google for some things. And it's not the Kodak days, Googlers fully understand that they need to disrupt themselves. And to tell you the truth many engineers there are more excited than afraid that things are happening, I think they will have the opportunity to get much more creative than before.
- a9h74j 4y ago
  IBM, Kodak, ... also PARC in the popular mix of such comparisons?
skybrian 4y ago
ChatGPT is an impressive tech demo that hasn't resulted in any revenue, and it's not clear that it's better than what Google has internally. We can try it, though, so it's great for publicity.
sidibe 4y ago
They're flat-footed for PR reasons more than fear of cannibilizing IMO, I'm sure they'll find a way to squeeze money out of a ChatGPT like thing. ChatGPT is rightfully received as an awesome demo, but if Google was first to release it would be evil incarnate, people will find all kinds of bad things they can make it say and it'll be a legal/PR nightmare. Not to mention the lack of "fair play" of pointing people to other sites, they already have enough flak from the little snippets, but they'd make a lot of enemies by not giving anyone else traffic anymore. Because of their size, they have a lot more constraints on them than OpenAI.
- fidgewidge 4y ago
  That's what Googlers think but where's the PR apocalypse for OpenAI? Everyone outside of the hyper-partisan US media bubble thinks ChatGPT is amazing and OpenAI are some kind of sci-fi operation. Reality is Google's primary problem in doing demos of their newest models is the activism and views of their own employees, not the rest of the world.

by cowmix 4y ago

xiphias2 4y ago

It is cannibalizing their existing offerings. I am already using ChatGPT instead of Google for some things. And it's not the Kodak days, Googlers fully understand that they need to disrupt themselves. And to tell you the truth many engineers there are more excited than afraid that things are happening, I think they will have the opportunity to get much more creative than before.

a9h74j 4y ago
IBM, Kodak, ... also PARC in the popular mix of such comparisons?

skybrian 4y ago

ChatGPT is an impressive tech demo that hasn't resulted in any revenue, and it's not clear that it's better than what Google has internally. We can try it, though, so it's great for publicity.

sidibe 4y ago

They're flat-footed for PR reasons more than fear of cannibilizing IMO, I'm sure they'll find a way to squeeze money out of a ChatGPT like thing. ChatGPT is rightfully received as an awesome demo, but if Google was first to release it would be evil incarnate, people will find all kinds of bad things they can make it say and it'll be a legal/PR nightmare. Not to mention the lack of "fair play" of pointing people to other sites, they already have enough flak from the little snippets, but they'd make a lot of enemies by not giving anyone else traffic anymore. Because of their size, they have a lot more constraints on them than OpenAI.

fidgewidge 4y ago
That's what Googlers think but where's the PR apocalypse for OpenAI? Everyone outside of the hyper-partisan US media bubble thinks ChatGPT is amazing and OpenAI are some kind of sci-fi operation. Reality is Google's primary problem in doing demos of their newest models is the activism and views of their own employees, not the rest of the world.