> I have not talked to anyone before (...) who claimed that the operational story of microservices was "basic" or "trivial". You somehow failed to read what I

> I have not talked to anyone before (...) who claimed that the operational story of microservices was "basic" or "trivial". You somehow failed to read what I actually said, and proceeded to go off on a non-sequitur. I repeat what I said: it is trivial to launch and shutdown multiple services in a local software dev environment. It's trivial with Docker, it's trivial with minikube, it's trivial with microk8s, etc. It is a solved problem. Why is anyone trying to pretend that this is impossible? Enough excuses and scapegoats. > Except I never said anything like that. Except you did. You tried to claim that the small teams you were involved failed to setup working software environment because reasons, and that was the reason why you also failed. Bad form. You own your work. > I'm not going to join an organisation and tell them "you're all doing it wrong!" in my first week. Bullshit. It makes zero sense to forego setting up a working dev environment as the very first onboarding task, and excuses like "being able to debug would make team members pissed" is absurd. Either you can do your job or you can't, and throwing your team members under the bus like this is bad form.